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Well, there's UCLA -- at least as of December last year https://www.chronicle.com/article/In-Talks-With-Elsevier-UCLA/245311 https://www.chronicle.com/article/I

Well, there's UCLA -- at least as of December last year https://www.chronicle.com/article/In-Talks-With-Elsevier-UCLA/245311 https://www.chronicle.com/article/In-Talks-With-Elsevier-UCL...

jrochkind1 8y ago
True, they _asked_ professors to _consider_ publishing elsewhere. In general, professors trying to get tenure will publish wherever they can the quickest to give them the most prestige, it's a minority (or well-established professors with tenure) who are going to take any moral or political considerations into account. "publish or perish" is for real, these folks are scrambling for it. It is not an oversight that the particular announcement in the OP doesn't even _mention_ publishing. But sure, UCLA even asking professors to consider that is a good step, and probably scares Elsevier. I'm in favor of it. I just wouldn't count on it quickly having an immediate effect on it's own. It could be part of a slow trend though. Now, if UC takes the money they're saving from not paying Elseiver, and spends it on organizing and setting up and supporting some open access journals, figuring out how to get the right people involved to get the new journals prestige, that could help the trend...
- colourlessgreen 8y ago
  UC does put money toward OA. UC already have an OA journal publishing platform: escholarship.org UC Press have an open access books program, Luminos: https://www.ucpress.edu/openaccess https://www.ucpress.edu/openaccess UC Davis & LA participate in the TOME open access books project: https://www.arl.org/focus-areas/scholarly-communication/toward-an-open-monograph-ecosystem https://www.arl.org/focus-areas/scholarly-communication/towa... finally there's the UC open access policies for published research articles from 2013/2015 to be made open access on escholarship.org: http://uc-oa.info http://uc-oa.info
  - jrochkind1 8y ago
    For sure! Now what if they take say half of the money they're not gonna be paying to Elsevier and do even more of that and more, that'd be exciting!

Well, there's UCLA -- at least as of December last year https://www.chronicle.com/article/In-Talks-With-Elsevier-UCLA/245311 https://www.chronicle.com/article/In-Talks-With-Elsevier-UCL...

jrochkind1 8y ago

True, they _asked_ professors to _consider_ publishing elsewhere. In general, professors trying to get tenure will publish wherever they can the quickest to give them the most prestige, it's a minority (or well-established professors with tenure) who are going to take any moral or political considerations into account. "publish or perish" is for real, these folks are scrambling for it. It is not an oversight that the particular announcement in the OP doesn't even _mention_ publishing. But sure, UCLA even asking professors to consider that is a good step, and probably scares Elsevier. I'm in favor of it. I just wouldn't count on it quickly having an immediate effect on it's own. It could be part of a slow trend though. Now, if UC takes the money they're saving from not paying Elseiver, and spends it on organizing and setting up and supporting some open access journals, figuring out how to get the right people involved to get the new journals prestige, that could help the trend...

colourlessgreen 8y ago
UC does put money toward OA. UC already have an OA journal publishing platform: escholarship.org UC Press have an open access books program, Luminos: https://www.ucpress.edu/openaccess https://www.ucpress.edu/openaccess UC Davis & LA participate in the TOME open access books project: https://www.arl.org/focus-areas/scholarly-communication/toward-an-open-monograph-ecosystem https://www.arl.org/focus-areas/scholarly-communication/towa... finally there's the UC open access policies for published research articles from 2013/2015 to be made open access on escholarship.org: http://uc-oa.info http://uc-oa.info
- jrochkind1 8y ago
  For sure! Now what if they take say half of the money they're not gonna be paying to Elsevier and do even more of that and more, that'd be exciting!