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Sorry to hear about the shutdown, and it looks like it was a pretty useful tool. Great that they open sourced it. The source code looks very interesting (and a

Sorry to hear about the shutdown, and it looks like it was a pretty useful tool. Great that they open sourced it. The source code looks very interesting (and a bit unusual for a React app.) [1] Looks like Coffeescript + "Coffeescript JSX", which I hadn't heard of before. I didn't look too closely, but I didn't see how they're doing state management in the editor. No Redux in the package.json [2]. I was hoping that I might be able to repurpose some of this for a new project I'm working on, but it all looks very foreign to me [3], and the file organization doesn't seem to follow any conventions that I'm familiar with. [1] https://github.com/Pagedraw/pagedraw/tree/master/src https://github.com/Pagedraw/pagedraw/tree/master/src [2] https://github.com/Pagedraw/pagedraw/blob/master/package.json https://github.com/Pagedraw/pagedraw/blob/master/package.jso... [3] https://github.com/Pagedraw/pagedraw/blob/master/src/editor/edit-page.cjsx https://github.com/Pagedraw/pagedraw/blob/master/src/editor/...

dinedal 8y ago
The reason they didn't use redux was explained in the medium post.[1] > We just used global mutable state instead of the whole immutable Reduxy patterns people liked to enforce. It was simple and it worked great. [1] https://medium.com/@gabriel_20625/technical-lessons-from-building-a-compiler-startup-for-3-years-4473405161cd https://medium.com/@gabriel_20625/technical-lessons-from-bui...
jpochtar 8y ago
http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html is how we felt about Coffeescript + JSX
- shubhamjain 8y ago
  Frankly, picking a non-conventional language in order to associate yourself with "true hackers" is PG's least useful advice. I am not even sure if he would still agree today. Hackers use the language they are most comfortable with and that gets things done. Everything else is secondary. I wrote a blog post on the subject [1]. [1]: https://shubhamjain.co/2018/12/01/why-paul-graham-wrong/ https://shubhamjain.co/2018/12/01/why-paul-graham-wrong/
  - jpochtar 8y ago
    Yeah we didn't do it for the hipster cred— we did it because I agree with PG that some languages are better than others, and Coffeescript is just better than Javascript.

dinedal 8y ago

The reason they didn't use redux was explained in the medium post.[1] > We just used global mutable state instead of the whole immutable Reduxy patterns people liked to enforce. It was simple and it worked great. [1] https://medium.com/@gabriel_20625/technical-lessons-from-building-a-compiler-startup-for-3-years-4473405161cd https://medium.com/@gabriel_20625/technical-lessons-from-bui...

jpochtar 8y ago

http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html is how we felt about Coffeescript + JSX

shubhamjain 8y ago
Frankly, picking a non-conventional language in order to associate yourself with "true hackers" is PG's least useful advice. I am not even sure if he would still agree today. Hackers use the language they are most comfortable with and that gets things done. Everything else is secondary. I wrote a blog post on the subject [1]. [1]: https://shubhamjain.co/2018/12/01/why-paul-graham-wrong/ https://shubhamjain.co/2018/12/01/why-paul-graham-wrong/
- jpochtar 8y ago
  Yeah we didn't do it for the hipster cred— we did it because I agree with PG that some languages are better than others, and Coffeescript is just better than Javascript.