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Have you lived in NYC? I don’t get this sense at all, as long as I stay away from the touristy parts of Manhattan.

by ericd 8y ago

crushcrashcrush 8y ago
Sounds like NYC = SoHo (which still has more culture in a single block than the entirety of the South Bay.)
- ericd 8y ago
  Ha no argument there. The South Bay downtowns are pretty sad. Never liked SoHo much but I’d trade for it in a second if it wasn’t for the huge difference in opportunity.
mykowebhn 8y ago
No, but I've visited many times since the 80s. The NYC I remember, and love, from then was dirty, smelly, and culturally adventuresome. It was also diverse ethnically and socio-economically in a not so segregated way. Today, when I visit NYC, and even Brooklyn for that matter, it feels like a city for the wealthy, and it feels much less ethnically diverse than it used to.
- ericd 8y ago
  It’s still dirty and smelly :-) I’d also argue that it’s still much more ethnically and culturally diverse than SF, but yeah, it’s definitely gentrified compared to what I remember it being in the 90s.
  - mykowebhn 8y ago
    Touche!
throwaway-1283 8y ago
Which parts of Manhattan aren't touristy? I lived there for a little over a year...agree that Manhattan is not necessarily that inspiring. I could never figure out what to do on the weekends. It felt like I was always stepping outside into a financial district and all anyone did was go to mediocre & expensive brunches.
- ericd 8y ago
  Most parts that aren't near Times Square, IMO, aren't very touristy. Did you live in the financial district? Do you enjoy nightlife? If not, you may not enjoy the city as much. But there are frequent live music shows, good bars of all types, great late night food options (food trucks, pizza spots, Japanese izakayas), beautiful parks (I liked Prospect Park especially, but Central is gorgeous too). And if you're a single heterosexual guy in your 20s, the dating scene is pretty incredible. It seemed at least decent for other orientations too. But yeah, there are overpriced brunches too. I tended not to do that as much because I'm not really a fan either.

Have you lived in NYC? I don’t get this sense at all, as long as I stay away from the touristy parts of Manhattan.

by ericd 8y ago

Have you lived in NYC? I don’t get this sense at all, as long as I stay away from the touristy parts of Manhattan.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago

Sounds like NYC = SoHo (which still has more culture in a single block than the entirety of the South Bay.)

ericd 8y ago
Ha no argument there. The South Bay downtowns are pretty sad. Never liked SoHo much but I’d trade for it in a second if it wasn’t for the huge difference in opportunity.

mykowebhn 8y ago

No, but I've visited many times since the 80s. The NYC I remember, and love, from then was dirty, smelly, and culturally adventuresome. It was also diverse ethnically and socio-economically in a not so segregated way. Today, when I visit NYC, and even Brooklyn for that matter, it feels like a city for the wealthy, and it feels much less ethnically diverse than it used to.

ericd 8y ago
It’s still dirty and smelly :-) I’d also argue that it’s still much more ethnically and culturally diverse than SF, but yeah, it’s definitely gentrified compared to what I remember it being in the 90s.
- mykowebhn 8y ago
  Touche!

throwaway-1283 8y ago

Which parts of Manhattan aren't touristy? I lived there for a little over a year...agree that Manhattan is not necessarily that inspiring. I could never figure out what to do on the weekends. It felt like I was always stepping outside into a financial district and all anyone did was go to mediocre & expensive brunches.

ericd 8y ago
Most parts that aren't near Times Square, IMO, aren't very touristy. Did you live in the financial district? Do you enjoy nightlife? If not, you may not enjoy the city as much. But there are frequent live music shows, good bars of all types, great late night food options (food trucks, pizza spots, Japanese izakayas), beautiful parks (I liked Prospect Park especially, but Central is gorgeous too). And if you're a single heterosexual guy in your 20s, the dating scene is pretty incredible. It seemed at least decent for other orientations too. But yeah, there are overpriced brunches too. I tended not to do that as much because I'm not really a fan either.