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I don't get it, who looks at Twitter and thinks "Yes, I want more of that type of audience."

by tomatotomato37 8y ago

astrodust 8y ago
Who looks at Medium and says "Sure, I'd love it if you own my content forever?"
- OscarTheGrinch 8y ago
  Writers with no established base of readers or method of distribution.
  - jonny_eh 8y ago
    Like Jeff Bezos?
    - function_seven 8y ago
      Ha. His use was to avoid tainting the Amazon or WaPo brands with his personal drama. Medium seems like a neutral, "throwaway" place to publish that letter.
- grody 8y ago
  I wonder what happens if a Medium user copies someone else's original content onto Medium and the post is uncontested by a DMCA request. If Medium or a subsidiary profit from reproducing that content, could the original creator sue, and for how much? Copyright is something I haven't taken the time to fully understand.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
  - elliekelly 8y ago
    This is an important legal question that's currently being debated by many legislators around the world. In the U.S. there's a law frequently called "Section 230"[1] that protects online content publishers from being held legally responsible for user-created content published on their platform. It's the reason why Tinder isn't on the hook for fraud every time someone uses their service to catfish and why Backpage & Craigslist (until recently at least) weren't accessories to prostitution every time someone sold sexual services on their sites. Likewise, Section 230 acts as a "shield" to protect the platforms from copyright liability for content posted by their users. This is good. It allows platforms like Facebook, Reddit, Medium, and even Hacker News to exist without needing to constantly police everything being said on their platform. It allows users of those platforms to have free and open discussion. You've probably heard about "Article 13" and the "upload filter" in the European Union. Article 13 takes away the European equivalent of Section 230's "shield" that protects online platforms from copyright liability. And the United States has been slowly chipping away at Section 230's protections as well. Last year Trump signed "FOSTA" (sometimes called "SESTA") which "creates liability for third-party content on websites “that unlawfully promote or facilitate prostitution." I would encourage you to read why this legislation is a problem for anyone who enjoys the open internet as we currently know it.[2][3] [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 [2] https://www.eff.org/cases/woodhull-freedom-foundation-et-al-v-united-states https://www.eff.org/cases/woodhull-freedom-foundation-et-al-... [3] https://stopsesta.org/ https://stopsesta.org/
- criddell 8y ago
  Do you lose your rights to your content when you post it on Medium?
- SilasX 8y ago
  Who looks at Medium and says, "yes, that is a good UI for reading that article -- I'm not nagged or tracked enough, and don't lose enough real estate to sticky headers"?
  - astrodust 8y ago
    "I don't think my content has enough Facebook integration. I want to be sure as much data as possible about my readers is being captured and fed to The Algorithm."
Kovah 8y ago
Well, from my experiences Twitter is way more than the racist people and stupid politicians stuff you usually hear from media. The developer community is active, helpful and shares a lot of interesting stuff.
- senderista 8y ago
  Most of the programming accounts I used to follow were ruined by politics.
  - Kovah 8y ago
    That's sad to hear. Luckily most developers keep their heads out out political stuff. If some account starts being political I almost instantly unfollow him/her.
pjc50 8y ago
Twitter has long had a symbiotic relationship with Medium as the place where long-form stuff is promoted, and things too long for Twitter go on Medium. Not sure why it's the default blog platform for this and not Wordpress. I'm also not sure who's paying who for this. Do the writers get paid for Medium? How? Is Twitter paying for this or does it come out of Medium's promotion budget?
- nostrademons 8y ago
  Medium and Twitter were both founded by the same person, Evan Williams, who remains a major shareholder of both companies.
  - iaabtpbtpnn 8y ago
    He also makes some damn fine bourbon whiskey.
    - QuercusMax 8y ago
      If it were the same Evan, I'd be really impressed. The single barrel is quite nice, and even the bottom-shelf stuff still tastes better (and is cheaper) than plain ol' Jack.
deleted 8y ago
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hcnews 8y ago
I mainly follow Dota2 and Hearthstone pros and orgs on twitter and they all seem to provide relevant information. My feed is nice, though checking it a daily/weekly rate is a good use of my time.
jackhack 8y ago
Someone who can collect and then sell the data of the readers + audience. It's not the authors who are selling. There is no "free." Someone is paying for this.

I don't get it, who looks at Twitter and thinks "Yes, I want more of that type of audience."

astrodust 8y ago

Who looks at Medium and says "Sure, I'd love it if you own my content forever?"

OscarTheGrinch 8y ago
Writers with no established base of readers or method of distribution.
- jonny_eh 8y ago
  Like Jeff Bezos?
  - function_seven 8y ago
    Ha. His use was to avoid tainting the Amazon or WaPo brands with his personal drama. Medium seems like a neutral, "throwaway" place to publish that letter.
grody 8y ago
I wonder what happens if a Medium user copies someone else's original content onto Medium and the post is uncontested by a DMCA request. If Medium or a subsidiary profit from reproducing that content, could the original creator sue, and for how much? Copyright is something I haven't taken the time to fully understand.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- elliekelly 8y ago
  This is an important legal question that's currently being debated by many legislators around the world. In the U.S. there's a law frequently called "Section 230"[1] that protects online content publishers from being held legally responsible for user-created content published on their platform. It's the reason why Tinder isn't on the hook for fraud every time someone uses their service to catfish and why Backpage & Craigslist (until recently at least) weren't accessories to prostitution every time someone sold sexual services on their sites. Likewise, Section 230 acts as a "shield" to protect the platforms from copyright liability for content posted by their users. This is good. It allows platforms like Facebook, Reddit, Medium, and even Hacker News to exist without needing to constantly police everything being said on their platform. It allows users of those platforms to have free and open discussion. You've probably heard about "Article 13" and the "upload filter" in the European Union. Article 13 takes away the European equivalent of Section 230's "shield" that protects online platforms from copyright liability. And the United States has been slowly chipping away at Section 230's protections as well. Last year Trump signed "FOSTA" (sometimes called "SESTA") which "creates liability for third-party content on websites “that unlawfully promote or facilitate prostitution." I would encourage you to read why this legislation is a problem for anyone who enjoys the open internet as we currently know it.[2][3] [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 [2] https://www.eff.org/cases/woodhull-freedom-foundation-et-al-v-united-states https://www.eff.org/cases/woodhull-freedom-foundation-et-al-... [3] https://stopsesta.org/ https://stopsesta.org/
criddell 8y ago
Do you lose your rights to your content when you post it on Medium?
SilasX 8y ago
Who looks at Medium and says, "yes, that is a good UI for reading that article -- I'm not nagged or tracked enough, and don't lose enough real estate to sticky headers"?
- astrodust 8y ago
  "I don't think my content has enough Facebook integration. I want to be sure as much data as possible about my readers is being captured and fed to The Algorithm."

Kovah 8y ago

Well, from my experiences Twitter is way more than the racist people and stupid politicians stuff you usually hear from media. The developer community is active, helpful and shares a lot of interesting stuff.

senderista 8y ago
Most of the programming accounts I used to follow were ruined by politics.
- Kovah 8y ago
  That's sad to hear. Luckily most developers keep their heads out out political stuff. If some account starts being political I almost instantly unfollow him/her.

pjc50 8y ago

Twitter has long had a symbiotic relationship with Medium as the place where long-form stuff is promoted, and things too long for Twitter go on Medium. Not sure why it's the default blog platform for this and not Wordpress. I'm also not sure who's paying who for this. Do the writers get paid for Medium? How? Is Twitter paying for this or does it come out of Medium's promotion budget?

nostrademons 8y ago
Medium and Twitter were both founded by the same person, Evan Williams, who remains a major shareholder of both companies.
- iaabtpbtpnn 8y ago
  He also makes some damn fine bourbon whiskey.
  - QuercusMax 8y ago
    If it were the same Evan, I'd be really impressed. The single barrel is quite nice, and even the bottom-shelf stuff still tastes better (and is cheaper) than plain ol' Jack.

deleted 8y ago

[deleted]

hcnews 8y ago

I mainly follow Dota2 and Hearthstone pros and orgs on twitter and they all seem to provide relevant information. My feed is nice, though checking it a daily/weekly rate is a good use of my time.

jackhack 8y ago

Someone who can collect and then sell the data of the readers + audience. It's not the authors who are selling. There is no "free." Someone is paying for this.