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Not tipping is a lazy action where you are taking out your annoyance at the system on the people who are most damaged by the system. It does nothing to change t

Not tipping is a lazy action where you are taking out your annoyance at the system on the people who are most damaged by the system. It does nothing to change the system. Tip heavy, if you can afford it, and lament how annoying the whole system is over a drink with friends. If you really hate it actually take political action (vote, protest, etc.).

imgabe 8y ago
I did take action. DC actually had a referendum to eliminate the tipped minimum wage, so that all jobs would be required to be paid the same minimum wage. I voted for it. A significant majority of the city voted for it. You know what happened? The city council overturned it because of lobbying from the restaurant industry. Also, a minority of servers who make far, far above minimum wage (like 70k/year) because of tips were heavily against it. Note that the referendum said nothing at all about eliminating tipping, it was just about providing a fair wage for everyone. So, the political route doesn't work. If we want to end tipping, stop tipping. If people who work jobs that depend on tips don't like that, they can negotiate with their employers for a fair wage, you know like every other job in the world does. Employers and employees are the two relevant parties who need to be involved in wage negotiations. Leave the customers out of it.
gambiting 8y ago
>> It does nothing to change the system. Quite the contrary. Not tipping is the best way to change the system. Those people most affected by it only agree to work for poor wages because they know tipping will make up for it. If tips evaporated overnight then employers would have to pay more to keep those employees.
onewhonknocks 8y ago
Counterpoint: Not tipping IS voting (with your pocketbook).
- apacheCamel 8y ago
  You are then voting by decreasing your waiter/waitress's salaray for the night. We shouldn't punish the people who depend on the money to live, we should protest the politicians too worried about corporate money.

imgabe 8y ago

I did take action. DC actually had a referendum to eliminate the tipped minimum wage, so that all jobs would be required to be paid the same minimum wage. I voted for it. A significant majority of the city voted for it. You know what happened? The city council overturned it because of lobbying from the restaurant industry. Also, a minority of servers who make far, far above minimum wage (like 70k/year) because of tips were heavily against it. Note that the referendum said nothing at all about eliminating tipping, it was just about providing a fair wage for everyone. So, the political route doesn't work. If we want to end tipping, stop tipping. If people who work jobs that depend on tips don't like that, they can negotiate with their employers for a fair wage, you know like every other job in the world does. Employers and employees are the two relevant parties who need to be involved in wage negotiations. Leave the customers out of it.

gambiting 8y ago

>> It does nothing to change the system. Quite the contrary. Not tipping is the best way to change the system. Those people most affected by it only agree to work for poor wages because they know tipping will make up for it. If tips evaporated overnight then employers would have to pay more to keep those employees.

onewhonknocks 8y ago

Counterpoint: Not tipping IS voting (with your pocketbook).

apacheCamel 8y ago
You are then voting by decreasing your waiter/waitress's salaray for the night. We shouldn't punish the people who depend on the money to live, we should protest the politicians too worried about corporate money.