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Which old software are we talking about? Is it the Clipper Card system that has tens of thousands of business rules that prevent transit agendcies from rolling

Which old software are we talking about? Is it the Clipper Card system that has tens of thousands of business rules that prevent transit agendcies from rolling out new passes and pricing strategies? Or are we taking about the software that runs the trains and currently causes a bottle neck through the transbay tube? Not everything needs to be rewritten in React using Google’s Material UI design standards, but my god, our public software really sucks. Even as the article talked about the tax assessors office... I know someone who bought a condo, but SF can’t collect property tax because their office is so backlogged. So instead they told the owner to make sure they save the money because in a couple of years they’re going to come asking for it.

wbl 8y ago
The software is not the issue with the tube. It's the fixed block system imposing minimum 1 minute headways.
derwiki 8y ago
> SF can’t collect property tax because their office is so backlogged IME they're able to collect property tax, no problem.
- gph 8y ago
  Clearly the truth lies somewhere in between both these statements. Something like: "SF can't collect the full and accurate amount of property tax in a timely manner from properties that were recently reassessed because their local assessor office is backlogged due to use of old and inefficient software." Which is basically what this whole article is saying.
danepowell 8y ago
The Clipper Card system _must_ fall into this category. I recently called because I was certain my card was being fraudulently used--the value would dip $5-10 for a single ride, and there were top-up credit card transactions that didn't correspond even remotely to my credit card statement. Turns out SF Muni and Clipper Card (and possibly Clipper Card's billing vendor?) are two/three completely independent organizations. Everything is passed between them in batches with up to a several-month delay, with batches often arriving out of order. This makes auditing nearly impossible and is what made me think something sketchy was happening. It's a miracle it works at all.
inferiorhuman 8y ago
Is it the Clipper Card system that has tens of thousands of business rules that prevent transit agendcies from rolling out new passes and pricing strategies You're putting the cart before the horse there. It's the transit agencies themselves that advocate for the lack of prices. BART, for instance, held out on implementing TransLink/Clipper for ages because they wanted their own BART-only cash purse on the card. Clipper is still fairly new and I don't think the fare rules have changed much, if at all, since its inception.

wbl 8y ago

The software is not the issue with the tube. It's the fixed block system imposing minimum 1 minute headways.

derwiki 8y ago

> SF can’t collect property tax because their office is so backlogged IME they're able to collect property tax, no problem.

gph 8y ago
Clearly the truth lies somewhere in between both these statements. Something like: "SF can't collect the full and accurate amount of property tax in a timely manner from properties that were recently reassessed because their local assessor office is backlogged due to use of old and inefficient software." Which is basically what this whole article is saying.

danepowell 8y ago

The Clipper Card system _must_ fall into this category. I recently called because I was certain my card was being fraudulently used--the value would dip $5-10 for a single ride, and there were top-up credit card transactions that didn't correspond even remotely to my credit card statement. Turns out SF Muni and Clipper Card (and possibly Clipper Card's billing vendor?) are two/three completely independent organizations. Everything is passed between them in batches with up to a several-month delay, with batches often arriving out of order. This makes auditing nearly impossible and is what made me think something sketchy was happening. It's a miracle it works at all.

inferiorhuman 8y ago

Is it the Clipper Card system that has tens of thousands of business rules that prevent transit agendcies from rolling out new passes and pricing strategies You're putting the cart before the horse there. It's the transit agencies themselves that advocate for the lack of prices. BART, for instance, held out on implementing TransLink/Clipper for ages because they wanted their own BART-only cash purse on the card. Clipper is still fairly new and I don't think the fare rules have changed much, if at all, since its inception.