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I hire about 150 COBOL guys and gals (as full time employees) and they are making in average 100k€ (European Bank) incl. 1 month holiday. Big brand contractors
by freetanga 8y ago
I hire about 150 COBOL guys and gals (as full time employees) and they are making in average 100k€ (European Bank) incl. 1 month holiday.
Big brand contractors cost us around the same.
DBAs, Sys Admins, operators, a bit more.
Having 30y experience myself, from mobile and Java to Mainframe Assembler, I find the older guys - both on mobile (few) and COBOL (most) to be much more focus on engineering a system that lasts whatever you throw at them, while (most, not all) young coders are about speed and hashing something together that works (but needs overhaul after 3-4 years).
Just my own experience, not saying is the only perspective.
- ThrowawayR2 8y ago> I find the older guys - both on mobile (few) and COBOL (most) to be much more focus on engineering a system that lasts whatever you throw at them, while (most, not all) young coders are about speed and hashing something together that works (but needs overhaul after 3-4 years). I've noticed that tendency in younger developers too and it's utterly infuriating. Do you do anything to discourage this and, if so, what?
- eropple 8y agoNot the person to whom you replied, but: mentorship. Code review. Talk about means, not just ends. I was fortunate to be a young developer with a desire to write things that could last, so I skipped a few steps and found myself doing the mentoring perhaps sooner than most, but instilling the notion that this thing needs to continue to function, and rejecting work that isn't in service of that goal, is doable.