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Given which, i wonder what the root of "paneer" is in Proto-Indo-European, as it doesn't seem very similar to "cheese". I looked it up, and didn't find a good a
by twic 8y ago
Given which, i wonder what the root of "paneer" is in Proto-Indo-European, as it doesn't seem very similar to "cheese". I looked it up, and didn't find a good answer. I did find a few other things, though.
Apparently "cheese"/"Käse"/etc is from a word something like "kwat", meaning "to turn sour". I would guess that Russian "kvass" is from the same root, BICBW.
Russian and other Slavonic languages have "syr", from a Proto-Indo-European word cognate with "sour". I have no idea what the difference between syr-sour and kwat-sour is.
The romance "fromage"/"formaggio" is from a root meaning "formed", because southern European cheeses are made in moulds or something (except in Spain and Portugal!). I always assumed this was connected with the fact that southern European cheeses are more likely to be soft than in northern Europe, but that's conjecture. If so, the etymology tells you that soft, formed cheeses came after hard cheeses, and largely displaced them.
Anyway there's more here:
https://www.languagesoftheworld.info/etymology/say-cheese.html https://www.languagesoftheworld.info/etymology/say-cheese.ht...
- danans 8y agoIt's not a definitive etymology, but there is this Sanskrit (therefore Indo-Iranian) term which may be related: payasya पयस्य mfn. (-स्यः-स्या-स्यं) 1 Made from milk, (curds, butter, cheese, &c.) itself derived from the word "payas" which means "water or milk". It's a possible connection to the "pa" part of the Persian word "paneer", at least. https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/WILScan/2014/web/webtc/servepdf.php?page=502 https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/WILScan/2014...