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And this is why Chrome will win, become complacent, and a new browser will dethrone it like it did IE. Meanwhile, Firefox will continue to hover around the 10%

And this is why Chrome will win, become complacent, and a new browser will dethrone it like it did IE. Meanwhile, Firefox will continue to hover around the 10% mark or so.

bobajeff 8y ago
Don't see Google pausing Chrome's development for 4 years like Internet Explorer.
- lucb1e 8y ago
  I honestly don't remember what the last time was Chrome introduced some cool new feature in Chrome. Maybe the PDF reader?
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    PWA, WebComponents, File Access, Worklets and Houdini and everything else in HTML5/CSS3 still missing from ChromeOS are all being pushed by Chrome.
    - lucb1e 8y ago
      Aside from File Access, I haven't seen any of these. PWA is sometimes mentioned on HN but I've never seen one in the wild (I had to look up the term a few weeks ago). Worklets, WebComponents, and Houdini, I never heard of. I'm not the most in the loop person since I'm not a web developer, but you'd think the cool stuff gets at least mentioned, so going with that, the most recent progressive feature that comes to mind is still the PDF reader (other than general maintenance work to keep up with HTML5, which all browsers do, and which I assume MSIE was also doing in the 4 year period mentioned -- or CSS3 or whatever was hot back then).
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Twitter and Starbucks mobile apps are PWAs. Houdini allows for low level control of CSS rendering, basically it allows for creating CSS classes with our own paint methods, and in the process having lower level JavaScript concurrency using less resources than workers.
    - zaarn 8y ago
      I don't see how those really benefit the end user. Firefox has developed Container Tabs, First Party Isolation, integrated Tracking Blocker, an early alpha for a password manager, Screenshots, Firefox Sync, DNS over HTTP and eSNI, not to mention that Mozilla lets addons do much more with the browser so an addon can really change how your browser works instead of being severely limited in what it can do.
      - kkarakk 8y ago
        i'm a developer and i find it hard to give a shit about any of that, container tabs are cute but they end up breaking a lot of websites, the rest is not even a blip on my radar as for addons changing how my browser works - no thanks, i'd rather have a consistently nice browser experience than have to re-install addons everywhere
        zaarn 8y ago
        If container tabs break your website, I suspect you're doing something shady with tracking. It does literally nothing but isolate cookies/storage/scripts.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Firebug was probably the only add-on I ever cared. For everything else there are network protocols, native apps and scripting. Blocking ads, should be done at the network layer.
        zaarn 8y ago
        Blocking ads can be done both on app and net layers. I use both piHole and uMatrix (and uBlock Origin on the phone), piHole eliminates the worst offenders already and the addons can make more direct modifications to traffic.

And this is why Chrome will win, become complacent, and a new browser will dethrone it like it did IE. Meanwhile, Firefox will continue to hover around the 10% mark or so.

bobajeff 8y ago

Don't see Google pausing Chrome's development for 4 years like Internet Explorer.

lucb1e 8y ago
I honestly don't remember what the last time was Chrome introduced some cool new feature in Chrome. Maybe the PDF reader?
- pjmlp 8y ago
  PWA, WebComponents, File Access, Worklets and Houdini and everything else in HTML5/CSS3 still missing from ChromeOS are all being pushed by Chrome.
  - lucb1e 8y ago
    Aside from File Access, I haven't seen any of these. PWA is sometimes mentioned on HN but I've never seen one in the wild (I had to look up the term a few weeks ago). Worklets, WebComponents, and Houdini, I never heard of. I'm not the most in the loop person since I'm not a web developer, but you'd think the cool stuff gets at least mentioned, so going with that, the most recent progressive feature that comes to mind is still the PDF reader (other than general maintenance work to keep up with HTML5, which all browsers do, and which I assume MSIE was also doing in the 4 year period mentioned -- or CSS3 or whatever was hot back then).
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Twitter and Starbucks mobile apps are PWAs. Houdini allows for low level control of CSS rendering, basically it allows for creating CSS classes with our own paint methods, and in the process having lower level JavaScript concurrency using less resources than workers.
  - zaarn 8y ago
    I don't see how those really benefit the end user. Firefox has developed Container Tabs, First Party Isolation, integrated Tracking Blocker, an early alpha for a password manager, Screenshots, Firefox Sync, DNS over HTTP and eSNI, not to mention that Mozilla lets addons do much more with the browser so an addon can really change how your browser works instead of being severely limited in what it can do.
    - kkarakk 8y ago
      i'm a developer and i find it hard to give a shit about any of that, container tabs are cute but they end up breaking a lot of websites, the rest is not even a blip on my radar as for addons changing how my browser works - no thanks, i'd rather have a consistently nice browser experience than have to re-install addons everywhere
      - zaarn 8y ago
        If container tabs break your website, I suspect you're doing something shady with tracking. It does literally nothing but isolate cookies/storage/scripts.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Firebug was probably the only add-on I ever cared. For everything else there are network protocols, native apps and scripting. Blocking ads, should be done at the network layer.
      - zaarn 8y ago
        Blocking ads can be done both on app and net layers. I use both piHole and uMatrix (and uBlock Origin on the phone), piHole eliminates the worst offenders already and the addons can make more direct modifications to traffic.