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Europe does depend on Russia for energy, at least in winter.

by YUMad 8y ago

dijit 8y ago
In natural gas; https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/growing-dependent-on-russia-the-gas-routes-in-europe/#3b311fdb62b0 https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/grow... However there is no strong dependence: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-dependent-is-germany-on-russian-gas/#200285493b48 https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-depe... tl;dr: 23% of German power comes from gas; that 35% of that gas comes from Russia. That's a power dependency of roughly 8%. Personally I don't think that's the same as being held entirely captive by a monopoly country as is the case when it comes to IT. But, it's a fair point, I'll take it. Replacing 8% of a countries energy input would be difficult, but I would argue that it's not impossible.
- YUMad 8y ago
  > In natural gas; https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/grow.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/grow.... > However there is no strong dependence: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-depe.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-depe.... > tl;dr: 23% of German power comes from gas; that 35% of that gas comes from Russia. That's a power dependency of roughly 8%. > Personally I don't think that's the same as being held entirely captive by a monopoly country as is the case when it comes to IT. > But, it's a fair point, I'll take it. Dependence used to be worse, this is result of efforts to lower it because Russia was using it as a blackmail tool. But I'm just nitpicking anyway, it's not the actual topic.
  - dijit 8y ago
    >But I'm just nitpicking anyway, it's not the actual topic. Maybe not, but it's a very good point. We used to have a reliance on Russia but due to poor behaviour we took steps to remove their power. I believe we should do that again with technology in regards to the USA.

Europe does depend on Russia for energy, at least in winter.

by YUMad 8y ago

Europe does depend on Russia for energy, at least in winter.

In natural gas; https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/growing-dependent-on-russia-the-gas-routes-in-europe/#3b311fdb62b0 https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/grow... However there is no strong dependence: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-dependent-is-germany-on-russian-gas/#200285493b48 https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-depe... tl;dr: 23% of German power comes from gas; that 35% of that gas comes from Russia. That's a power dependency of roughly 8%. Personally I don't think that's the same as being held entirely captive by a monopoly country as is the case when it comes to IT. But, it's a fair point, I'll take it. Replacing 8% of a countries energy input would be difficult, but I would argue that it's not impossible.

YUMad 8y ago
> In natural gas; https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/grow.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/12/grow.... > However there is no strong dependence: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-depe.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2018/07/19/how-depe.... > tl;dr: 23% of German power comes from gas; that 35% of that gas comes from Russia. That's a power dependency of roughly 8%. > Personally I don't think that's the same as being held entirely captive by a monopoly country as is the case when it comes to IT. > But, it's a fair point, I'll take it. Dependence used to be worse, this is result of efforts to lower it because Russia was using it as a blackmail tool. But I'm just nitpicking anyway, it's not the actual topic.
- dijit 8y ago
  >But I'm just nitpicking anyway, it's not the actual topic. Maybe not, but it's a very good point. We used to have a reliance on Russia but due to poor behaviour we took steps to remove their power. I believe we should do that again with technology in regards to the USA.