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Delta Chat – WhatsApp Like Messenger over IMAP

51 points by olivier-tille 8y ago

y0ghur7_xxx 8y ago
This looks really nice. Can't wait to try it out later today. Anyone with a gmail account can use it, and there is no need to install the app if you don't want to.
- admax88q 8y ago
  My main complaint about DeltaChat is that their threading model doesn't work with gmails threading model. As a result when using it to message gmail friends their inbox is cluttered with a new thread for every single message I send. I haven't checked if it's due to the subject changing or if they don't properly set In-Reply-To/References, but its mildly annoying for my contacts. Of course if they are properly setting In-Reply-To and References headers in the message, well then my complaint is really with gmail.
scblock 8y ago
Previous discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216827 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216827
StreakyCobra 8y ago
Related HN post 6 days ago about COI (Delta is discussed as well): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216077
steeleduncan 8y ago
Is this the same as the COI protocol[1] that came up a few days ago? [1] https://www.coi-dev.org/ https://www.coi-dev.org/
- olivier-tille 8y ago
  I'll attend a meetup where the authors of Delta.Chat will be present tonight and will ask about this. It's something I was wondering about as well. Will post an update here when I know more...
- psic4t 8y ago
  The COI FAQ says: "We are cooperating with Delta.Chat for it to also use COI to provide more features, we are contributing to the C-Kernel of it."
  - olivier-tille 8y ago
    Exactly, that's what I was told yesterday as well. They're collaborating on https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core
arendtio 8y ago
Tried it a few days ago and it made a quite polished impression. I hope COI and Delta.chat will join forces and define a standard algorithm to convert e-mails to instant messages (and e2e encryption). Otherwise, we might end up with incompatible clients within the same protocol.
- olivier-tille 8y ago
  They do use a common core: https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core
theon144 8y ago
So, does it clutter up my inbox when I use it? Or does it delete the messages on arrival? Or does it file them in a special IMAP folder? This was also apparently asked the last time this was posted to HN and still isn't answered in their FAQ :(

51 points by olivier-tille 8y ago

This looks really nice. Can't wait to try it out later today. Anyone with a gmail account can use it, and there is no need to install the app if you don't want to.

admax88q 8y ago
My main complaint about DeltaChat is that their threading model doesn't work with gmails threading model. As a result when using it to message gmail friends their inbox is cluttered with a new thread for every single message I send. I haven't checked if it's due to the subject changing or if they don't properly set In-Reply-To/References, but its mildly annoying for my contacts. Of course if they are properly setting In-Reply-To and References headers in the message, well then my complaint is really with gmail.

scblock 8y ago

Previous discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216827 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216827

StreakyCobra 8y ago

Related HN post 6 days ago about COI (Delta is discussed as well): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216077

steeleduncan 8y ago

Is this the same as the COI protocol[1] that came up a few days ago? [1] https://www.coi-dev.org/ https://www.coi-dev.org/

olivier-tille 8y ago
I'll attend a meetup where the authors of Delta.Chat will be present tonight and will ask about this. It's something I was wondering about as well. Will post an update here when I know more...
psic4t 8y ago
The COI FAQ says: "We are cooperating with Delta.Chat for it to also use COI to provide more features, we are contributing to the C-Kernel of it."
- olivier-tille 8y ago
  Exactly, that's what I was told yesterday as well. They're collaborating on https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core

arendtio 8y ago

Tried it a few days ago and it made a quite polished impression. I hope COI and Delta.chat will join forces and define a standard algorithm to convert e-mails to instant messages (and e2e encryption). Otherwise, we might end up with incompatible clients within the same protocol.

olivier-tille 8y ago
They do use a common core: https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core

theon144 8y ago

So, does it clutter up my inbox when I use it? Or does it delete the messages on arrival? Or does it file them in a special IMAP folder? This was also apparently asked the last time this was posted to HN and still isn't answered in their FAQ :(