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If DOM access to the page were to come to WASM what is the expectation that deveopers suddenly learn to appreciate and execute DOM instructions? On what basis

If DOM access to the page were to come to WASM what is the expectation that deveopers suddenly learn to appreciate and execute DOM instructions? On what basis do you form your answer? Due to the phobias I described above my expectations of success are low, and rightly so. Rather, people are whining for something they don't have in their favorite language and if they get it the results will be a shit show. I espcially doubt advanced topics, such as accessibility, will be successful. If subjects that actually are challenging were taking seriously these developers wouldn't be crying something simple, like executing the DOM from JavaScript.

pjmlp 8y ago
There is no if, DOM access is already at Stage 3. https://github.com/WebAssembly/reference-types https://github.com/WebAssembly/reference-types Besides there is already WebGL, WebAudio and WebGPU is being worked on.
- austincheney 8y ago
  You completely ignored the details of the thing you linked to and you completely ignored my comment to do it. Dillusionment is a part of extreme reactions to phobias. The details for the spec update you are talking about have already been addressed in these comments: https://github.com/WebAssembly/host-bindings/blob/master/proposals/host-bindings/Overview.md https://github.com/WebAssembly/host-bindings/blob/master/pro... You should read my previous comment if you want any further replies.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Thing is, I don't have any phobias, unless you haven't been paying attention, Web development is part of my job. I am just stating that Flash like Web sites will come back, regardless of what WebAssembly haters think. As for further replies, oh well.
    - austincheney 8y ago
      Restating the goals of the WASM project and actually reading the spec doesn’t make anybody a hater. Also Flash had the equivalent of host bindings and could not modify the containing page.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Goals and spec are theory, what matters in the end is what people are actually doing on the field. The goals of W3C were never to have a general purpose VM, rather hypertext documents, which nowadays only a minority cares about.

pjmlp 8y ago

There is no if, DOM access is already at Stage 3. https://github.com/WebAssembly/reference-types https://github.com/WebAssembly/reference-types Besides there is already WebGL, WebAudio and WebGPU is being worked on.

austincheney 8y ago
You completely ignored the details of the thing you linked to and you completely ignored my comment to do it. Dillusionment is a part of extreme reactions to phobias. The details for the spec update you are talking about have already been addressed in these comments: https://github.com/WebAssembly/host-bindings/blob/master/proposals/host-bindings/Overview.md https://github.com/WebAssembly/host-bindings/blob/master/pro... You should read my previous comment if you want any further replies.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Thing is, I don't have any phobias, unless you haven't been paying attention, Web development is part of my job. I am just stating that Flash like Web sites will come back, regardless of what WebAssembly haters think. As for further replies, oh well.
  - austincheney 8y ago
    Restating the goals of the WASM project and actually reading the spec doesn’t make anybody a hater. Also Flash had the equivalent of host bindings and could not modify the containing page.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Goals and spec are theory, what matters in the end is what people are actually doing on the field. The goals of W3C were never to have a general purpose VM, rather hypertext documents, which nowadays only a minority cares about.