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are you seriously asking this about the same govt that has trampled on tibetan rights and is holding a million muslims in an internment camp? Since you have br

are you seriously asking this about the same govt that has trampled on tibetan rights and is holding a million muslims in an internment camp? Since you have brought up the subject of the genocidal CCP having the support of the Chinese population, let me ask you this: isn't it true that the feeling amongst Han Chinese is that they are superior to other races and and cultures, and are meant to rule them? Isn't that the policy CCP is following now?

Theodores 8y ago
Don't be so facile about China. It makes you sound like you only know how to suckle at the teat of mainstream Western media. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones: How many young black Americans are in jail, on parole or awaiting trial? Which country has the most people in prison, by percentage or gross total? What about Hawaiian rights? How did that sovereign country become a U.S. state exactly? How do these remote regions of China stack up compared to NATO's narco state of Afghanistan? The narrative about Tibet you know is what the CIA told you to believe. The British invaded the place once, maybe you would prefer the place to be a British colony, open to the Western corporations and therefore 'free'? The story of China and Tibet is not something you have any meaningful knowledge of. Everything you say about Chinese people and them thinking themselves as superior with some divine right to rule can be said about people in Washington, London and Tel Aviv.
- claplouder 8y ago
  I am Indian, and I know precisely the story of Tibetans. There are many of them living in India now since they've lost their homes. China invaded India twice, so don't think I don't know Chinese superiority complex. Of course there are nutcases everywhere, but nowhere else a government this powerful has a mandate to undermine human rights at a global level without any opposition from their own people. CCP is following a racist genocidal agenda with full support of a majority of their people, and they won't stop at the Uighurs or tibetans.
- mda 8y ago
  Wow, I am speechless. If majority of China thinks this way, we are in for a very wild ride in near future.
  - house_atr 8y ago
    As much as I hate China for what it did to Tibet and what's doing now to Turkic Muslims, there is an important point being made here. The way you feel about the future; the idea that you'll be under the power of people that are an anathema to your way of life, is how most people have felt about the west for the worst part of a bitter century.
  - claplouder 8y ago
    This is right out of the CCP bullshit arguments textbook. They automatically assume that you are an American, and state that you have no idea of what you're talking about since you are brainwashed by the "western mainstream media." The blatant projection here is laughable since the Chinese are the ones censored and brainwashed by their govt. Another thing they love to bring up is the black prison population in the States to compare it to Chinese prison camps where people are thrown in forever without any trials. Atleast in America, they can protest and hold lawmakers accountable by voting them out. Any meaningful argument with these guys is pointless since they are just govt mouthpieces.
    - Theodores 8y ago
      You are showing signs of paranoia. In my comment there is no assumption on nationality. I am just comparing and contrasting. I got my information regarding how many young black men are in jail from black Americans and one white American lady. I think you need to take up the challenge of citing a source of some Chinese 'communist' ranting on about the US black prison population. From my knowledge of the world these Chinese folk have been rather too quiet about the injustices of the US 'justice system' and I wish they were demanding something was done. Please prove me wrong that they are not as mute as I believe them to be. Regarding your paranoia, I am a citizen of planet earth and definitely not Chinese in any way. I am too vegetarian and too English speaking to want to spend time in China's remote provinces. I am old enough to understand that nothing said by Western politicians is likely to be true. Not being easily duped and gullible does not make me some person that has been brainwashed by the Chinese Communist Party or a 'govt mouthpiece'. You must appreciate that there are people in the West that study history more than you do and that opinions that differ to your own are not the result of 'communist brainwashing'. Rather than bust blood vessels writing missives about the lack of due process in China, chill out and spend some time reading about the history of the law in China. I think you will find the history quite fascinating.
- vixen99 8y ago
  Too many red herrings to follow up but how about the implied assertion that a huge proportion of jailed Americans are there solely because of their age and skin color? If true then this does indeed sounds likes a horrific mega-scandal that screams for redress rather than, for instance, the pursuance of issues relating to possible interference in the last election. Question of priorities! By the way you forgot to mention the thousands of executions that take place in China according to Amnesty International. Exact figures are kept secret of course. How does that stack up with the US?
- dtwest 8y ago
  Most young black Americans are in jail for drug related offenses, which could warrant the death penalty in China. Also your argument is completely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
  - Theodores 8y ago
    In oldspeak we had this word: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Theodores 8y ago

Don't be so facile about China. It makes you sound like you only know how to suckle at the teat of mainstream Western media. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones: How many young black Americans are in jail, on parole or awaiting trial? Which country has the most people in prison, by percentage or gross total? What about Hawaiian rights? How did that sovereign country become a U.S. state exactly? How do these remote regions of China stack up compared to NATO's narco state of Afghanistan? The narrative about Tibet you know is what the CIA told you to believe. The British invaded the place once, maybe you would prefer the place to be a British colony, open to the Western corporations and therefore 'free'? The story of China and Tibet is not something you have any meaningful knowledge of. Everything you say about Chinese people and them thinking themselves as superior with some divine right to rule can be said about people in Washington, London and Tel Aviv.

claplouder 8y ago
I am Indian, and I know precisely the story of Tibetans. There are many of them living in India now since they've lost their homes. China invaded India twice, so don't think I don't know Chinese superiority complex. Of course there are nutcases everywhere, but nowhere else a government this powerful has a mandate to undermine human rights at a global level without any opposition from their own people. CCP is following a racist genocidal agenda with full support of a majority of their people, and they won't stop at the Uighurs or tibetans.
mda 8y ago
Wow, I am speechless. If majority of China thinks this way, we are in for a very wild ride in near future.
- house_atr 8y ago
  As much as I hate China for what it did to Tibet and what's doing now to Turkic Muslims, there is an important point being made here. The way you feel about the future; the idea that you'll be under the power of people that are an anathema to your way of life, is how most people have felt about the west for the worst part of a bitter century.
- claplouder 8y ago
  This is right out of the CCP bullshit arguments textbook. They automatically assume that you are an American, and state that you have no idea of what you're talking about since you are brainwashed by the "western mainstream media." The blatant projection here is laughable since the Chinese are the ones censored and brainwashed by their govt. Another thing they love to bring up is the black prison population in the States to compare it to Chinese prison camps where people are thrown in forever without any trials. Atleast in America, they can protest and hold lawmakers accountable by voting them out. Any meaningful argument with these guys is pointless since they are just govt mouthpieces.
  - Theodores 8y ago
    You are showing signs of paranoia. In my comment there is no assumption on nationality. I am just comparing and contrasting. I got my information regarding how many young black men are in jail from black Americans and one white American lady. I think you need to take up the challenge of citing a source of some Chinese 'communist' ranting on about the US black prison population. From my knowledge of the world these Chinese folk have been rather too quiet about the injustices of the US 'justice system' and I wish they were demanding something was done. Please prove me wrong that they are not as mute as I believe them to be. Regarding your paranoia, I am a citizen of planet earth and definitely not Chinese in any way. I am too vegetarian and too English speaking to want to spend time in China's remote provinces. I am old enough to understand that nothing said by Western politicians is likely to be true. Not being easily duped and gullible does not make me some person that has been brainwashed by the Chinese Communist Party or a 'govt mouthpiece'. You must appreciate that there are people in the West that study history more than you do and that opinions that differ to your own are not the result of 'communist brainwashing'. Rather than bust blood vessels writing missives about the lack of due process in China, chill out and spend some time reading about the history of the law in China. I think you will find the history quite fascinating.
vixen99 8y ago
Too many red herrings to follow up but how about the implied assertion that a huge proportion of jailed Americans are there solely because of their age and skin color? If true then this does indeed sounds likes a horrific mega-scandal that screams for redress rather than, for instance, the pursuance of issues relating to possible interference in the last election. Question of priorities! By the way you forgot to mention the thousands of executions that take place in China according to Amnesty International. Exact figures are kept secret of course. How does that stack up with the US?
dtwest 8y ago
Most young black Americans are in jail for drug related offenses, which could warrant the death penalty in China. Also your argument is completely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- Theodores 8y ago
  In oldspeak we had this word: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy