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> This is what I used to think, but every year the "Tesla killers" fail to kill, or even wound. The "Tesla killers" have been sleeping, but they are about to w

> This is what I used to think, but every year the "Tesla killers" fail to kill, or even wound. The "Tesla killers" have been sleeping, but they are about to wake up. No doubt Tesla jump started the market, but the other manufacturers have decades of experience. On top of that, no other car maker has the problems that Tesla does due to its CEO and his inability to stop tweeting. Whilst Tesla had a start start, it fell behind in many other areas like production, delivery and customer service. Other car companies have been doing this successfully for decades. There are hundreds of horror stories on the Tesla forums and on reddit of people having nightmarish customer service experiences with Tesla, and delivery problems. Elon Musk himself has enlisted volunteers to help deliver the cars. Do you think an established car manufacturer like Toyota or Ford will have any problem in getting their vehicles anywhere on the face of the Earth? When the giants have fully woken up, I suspect they'll utterly trample on Tesla.

A2017U1 8y ago
Funny it took them so long to do so given the huge bankrolls behind these companies and that none of the tech is new whatsoever. Good on them for changing their ingrained oil economy mindsets though. I'm sure it was entirely a moral choice by the hundreds of big auto execs worldwide.
- anth_anm 8y ago
  Companies aren't moral. They do what makes them money, mostly in the short term.
AtlasBarfed 8y ago
- with what supply of batteries? They'll always be behind Tesla without the gigafactory - how will they sell them? Dealerships are 100% hostile to EVs, they won't bring in the maintenance business - Oh, you think the giants are good at customer service? The only difference in complaints in your example is that dealer networks distribute the dissatisfaction, but Tesla forums get all of them
- anth_anm 8y ago
  > with what supply of batteries? They'll always be behind Tesla without the gigafactory With supply chains setup years in advance because they know how to do logistics. > - how will they sell them? Dealerships are 100% hostile to EVs, they won't bring in the maintenance business Fair, but not insurmountable. > Oh, you think the giants are good at customer service? The only difference in complaints in your example is that dealer networks distribute the dissatisfaction, but Tesla forums get all of them Every company is at shitty at customer service as they can be while not destroying their business.

A2017U1 8y ago

Funny it took them so long to do so given the huge bankrolls behind these companies and that none of the tech is new whatsoever. Good on them for changing their ingrained oil economy mindsets though. I'm sure it was entirely a moral choice by the hundreds of big auto execs worldwide.

anth_anm 8y ago
Companies aren't moral. They do what makes them money, mostly in the short term.

AtlasBarfed 8y ago

- with what supply of batteries? They'll always be behind Tesla without the gigafactory - how will they sell them? Dealerships are 100% hostile to EVs, they won't bring in the maintenance business - Oh, you think the giants are good at customer service? The only difference in complaints in your example is that dealer networks distribute the dissatisfaction, but Tesla forums get all of them

anth_anm 8y ago
> with what supply of batteries? They'll always be behind Tesla without the gigafactory With supply chains setup years in advance because they know how to do logistics. > - how will they sell them? Dealerships are 100% hostile to EVs, they won't bring in the maintenance business Fair, but not insurmountable. > Oh, you think the giants are good at customer service? The only difference in complaints in your example is that dealer networks distribute the dissatisfaction, but Tesla forums get all of them Every company is at shitty at customer service as they can be while not destroying their business.