That does not change their state of being. How they get the data is a matter of their nature, not whether they are beings. I also did not speak to their state

That does not change their state of being. How they get the data is a matter of their nature, not whether they are beings. I also did not speak to their state, only what may define actually having one, as opposed to being something simpler, an expression as I put it above. We can get the message of the stone, the stone also is changed by us having done it. It literally is what happens to it. There is that.