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> I love my lightweight i3 setup It's been so many years and I often take for granted what's before my eyes -- i3 is solidly in the "pry it from my cold dead h

> I love my lightweight i3 setup It's been so many years and I often take for granted what's before my eyes -- i3 is solidly in the "pry it from my cold dead hands" category.

xyproto 8y ago
Until you switch to sway, which is basically i3, but for Wayland. Good bye X11!
- josteink 8y ago
  Sway has too many bleeding edge dependencies last time I checked, so it’s hard to get built and running on a “conventional” desktop-oriented desktop like Ubuntu. The author has iirc even actively discouraged Ubuntu and Debian from packaging it, because he doesn’t want distro users creating bug reports on older versions (ie noise) for bugs already fixed in git master. Once sway lands for regular distro-users, I’ll be there. For now I’ll stick to i3.
  - matt-snider 8y ago
    Sway is very close to a 1.0 release, 1.0-rc4 was just released: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735 It is and has been quite stable as a regular user on the sway-git version for awhile, but I can't comment on what it's like for Ubuntu or Debian.
- spacenick88 8y ago
  Sadly it seems it currently can't deal with rotated monitors ;-( I really do love my vertical 24" monitor with full screen terminal.
  - nathcd 8y ago
    I believe that's been possible since 1.0-alpha.1 : https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735
    - goldblend 8y ago
      It is, I have it setup in this configuration. I also personally found sway makes setting offsets for 2 monitors somewhat easier than X11.
- RandomGuyDTB 8y ago
  What's the appeal behind Wayland? I've been using X for a while now (linux n00b) and I really enjoy having everything like this, there even are a couple apps I use specifically for X11.
  - mgbmtl 8y ago
    It's not perfect, but personally I appreciate the better security model of Wayland. Although it can be annoying if you have to do screensharing/recording. On my older laptop, it also feels more responsive.
    - antongribok 8y ago
      I'm on Wayland via Fedora, and we use Zoom for company video conferencing. About 2 months ago they released a new version that started supporting screen sharing on Wayland. Works perfectly. Edited for grammar and to add this: My point being is that it's slowly but surely getting better and better.
      - martinsb 8y ago
        Which version are you using right now? I have the latest one and it does not allow me to share anything else than a white canvas. Do you launch zoom somehow differently? For me it behaves like a regular XWayland app
        antongribok 8y ago
        zoom-2.7.162522.0121-1.x86_64 which seems to be their latest. With the previous version I had the same thing, only allowed me to share white canvas. Here's the process hierarchy: \_ gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-password] \_ /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session gnome-session \_ /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary \_ /usr/bin/gnome-shell \_ /usr/bin/zoom \_ sh -c export SSB_HOME=/home/me/.zoom; export QSG_INFO=1; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/zoom; /opt/zoom/zoom "" \_ /opt/zoom/zoom Besides installing the new RPM, I haven't done anything differently.
- wasted_intel 8y ago
  I'd love to switch, but we use Zoom at work and screen sharing in Wayland was unsupported, last I checked.
  - antongribok 8y ago
    Screen sharing works on zoom-2.7.162522.0121-1.x86_64 which seems to be their latest. (see my other comments here)
    - wasted_intel 8y ago
      Thanks for the head's up; much appreciated!
- 0xb100db1ade 8y ago
  I want to do that so bad. If only changing dpi didn't make everything blurry :-/

> I love my lightweight i3 setup It's been so many years and I often take for granted what's before my eyes -- i3 is solidly in the "pry it from my cold dead hands" category.

xyproto 8y ago

Until you switch to sway, which is basically i3, but for Wayland. Good bye X11!

josteink 8y ago
Sway has too many bleeding edge dependencies last time I checked, so it’s hard to get built and running on a “conventional” desktop-oriented desktop like Ubuntu. The author has iirc even actively discouraged Ubuntu and Debian from packaging it, because he doesn’t want distro users creating bug reports on older versions (ie noise) for bugs already fixed in git master. Once sway lands for regular distro-users, I’ll be there. For now I’ll stick to i3.
- matt-snider 8y ago
  Sway is very close to a 1.0 release, 1.0-rc4 was just released: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735 It is and has been quite stable as a regular user on the sway-git version for awhile, but I can't comment on what it's like for Ubuntu or Debian.
spacenick88 8y ago
Sadly it seems it currently can't deal with rotated monitors ;-( I really do love my vertical 24" monitor with full screen terminal.
- nathcd 8y ago
  I believe that's been possible since 1.0-alpha.1 : https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735
  - goldblend 8y ago
    It is, I have it setup in this configuration. I also personally found sway makes setting offsets for 2 monitors somewhat easier than X11.
RandomGuyDTB 8y ago
What's the appeal behind Wayland? I've been using X for a while now (linux n00b) and I really enjoy having everything like this, there even are a couple apps I use specifically for X11.
- mgbmtl 8y ago
  It's not perfect, but personally I appreciate the better security model of Wayland. Although it can be annoying if you have to do screensharing/recording. On my older laptop, it also feels more responsive.
  - antongribok 8y ago
    I'm on Wayland via Fedora, and we use Zoom for company video conferencing. About 2 months ago they released a new version that started supporting screen sharing on Wayland. Works perfectly. Edited for grammar and to add this: My point being is that it's slowly but surely getting better and better.
    - martinsb 8y ago
      Which version are you using right now? I have the latest one and it does not allow me to share anything else than a white canvas. Do you launch zoom somehow differently? For me it behaves like a regular XWayland app
      - antongribok 8y ago
        zoom-2.7.162522.0121-1.x86_64 which seems to be their latest. With the previous version I had the same thing, only allowed me to share white canvas. Here's the process hierarchy: \_ gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-password] \_ /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session gnome-session \_ /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary \_ /usr/bin/gnome-shell \_ /usr/bin/zoom \_ sh -c export SSB_HOME=/home/me/.zoom; export QSG_INFO=1; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/zoom; /opt/zoom/zoom "" \_ /opt/zoom/zoom Besides installing the new RPM, I haven't done anything differently.
wasted_intel 8y ago
I'd love to switch, but we use Zoom at work and screen sharing in Wayland was unsupported, last I checked.
- antongribok 8y ago
  Screen sharing works on zoom-2.7.162522.0121-1.x86_64 which seems to be their latest. (see my other comments here)
  - wasted_intel 8y ago
    Thanks for the head's up; much appreciated!
0xb100db1ade 8y ago
I want to do that so bad. If only changing dpi didn't make everything blurry :-/