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What a gem of a comment. What is complicated about the setup? What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couc

What a gem of a comment. What is complicated about the setup? What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch?

lostjohnny 8y ago
> What is complicated about the setup? Everything. > What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch? I never said he can't, it just took a lot more time for him than it took for me to do it. Are regular drivers going out for groceries tuning their engine to perfection everytime they need to go buy milk? That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a desktop dedicated to a worker, not a pro, and expert, a tuner, a nerd, a geek, someone who loves machine carnally. Just regular folks that know ho to do what they have to do and that's just it. I've been a Linux user for the past 15 years, I installed my first Slackware in 1996, but I wouldn't say my setup is desktop ready. I don't know how many of my 13 thousands coworkers would have been able to solve the problems I had with Debian and my Lenovo P-70 multi monitor setup. I'm sure many of them think I'm crazy spending so much time on it, when they have a problem they call IT and until IT doesn't solve it, they are not working, and are happier. That's a desktop computer.
- codemusings 8y ago
  > Everything. Terrific non-answer. You seem to be projecting a lot. He never mentioned that it took him a long time to do anything. And just because he doesn't use a readymade workflow or a graphical user interface for some of his applications his setup is not a Desktop setup? > That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a desktop dedicated to a worker, not a pro, and expert, a tuner, a nerd, a geek, someone who loves machine carnally. This has to be the weirdest bikeshedding argument I've ever seen. The only reason I can think of why you're so insistent on this distinction is to brag. > I don't know how many of my 13 thousands coworkers would have been able to solve the problems I had with Debian and my Lenovo P-70 multi monitor setup. Yup. There it is.
  - lostjohnny 8y ago
    > Terrific non-answer. It's not. It's an honest to heart answer. this is very complicated for a basic setup (https://xmonad.org/tour.html https://xmonad.org/tour.html) even if one knows how to do it > He never mentioned that it took him a long time to do anything It surely did. It's not a simple setup, it's a custom tailored "this is good because I can use Haskell" setup It took a lot of time just to get to understand what he's doing > This has to be the weirdest bikeshedding argument I've ever seen. It's not. It's important to let people know that GNU/Linux is already more than ready for the desktop and that GNU/Linux on the desktop is not about masturbating over complex stuff to get things done > The only reason I can think of why you're so insistent on this distinction is to brag. Mate, you're overreacting. > Yup. There it is. Dude, you're seriously overreacting. I did nothing special, just followed some guide on the internet, it took me days to get there, so nothing cool again. It's a multi monitor setup, who does a tech job on the laptop-screen-only anymore? Do you wanna know the best part? Until I figured out how to setup HiDPI (another thing that on Ubuntu on my home laptop worked out of the box) I had to use the laptop monitor, a 17 inches 4k, with the font size to 24 or it was to small to even read. Cool ah? I'm going to brag about it with Linus now... It's just something that people who are not tech enthusiasts don't do. Get used to it. There's nothing to brag about being obsessed by DIY.

What a gem of a comment. What is complicated about the setup? What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch?

lostjohnny 8y ago

> What is complicated about the setup? Everything. > What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch? I never said he can't, it just took a lot more time for him than it took for me to do it. Are regular drivers going out for groceries tuning their engine to perfection everytime they need to go buy milk? That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a desktop dedicated to a worker, not a pro, and expert, a tuner, a nerd, a geek, someone who loves machine carnally. Just regular folks that know ho to do what they have to do and that's just it. I've been a Linux user for the past 15 years, I installed my first Slackware in 1996, but I wouldn't say my setup is desktop ready. I don't know how many of my 13 thousands coworkers would have been able to solve the problems I had with Debian and my Lenovo P-70 multi monitor setup. I'm sure many of them think I'm crazy spending so much time on it, when they have a problem they call IT and until IT doesn't solve it, they are not working, and are happier. That's a desktop computer.

codemusings 8y ago
> Everything. Terrific non-answer. You seem to be projecting a lot. He never mentioned that it took him a long time to do anything. And just because he doesn't use a readymade workflow or a graphical user interface for some of his applications his setup is not a Desktop setup? > That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a desktop dedicated to a worker, not a pro, and expert, a tuner, a nerd, a geek, someone who loves machine carnally. This has to be the weirdest bikeshedding argument I've ever seen. The only reason I can think of why you're so insistent on this distinction is to brag. > I don't know how many of my 13 thousands coworkers would have been able to solve the problems I had with Debian and my Lenovo P-70 multi monitor setup. Yup. There it is.
- lostjohnny 8y ago
  > Terrific non-answer. It's not. It's an honest to heart answer. this is very complicated for a basic setup (https://xmonad.org/tour.html https://xmonad.org/tour.html) even if one knows how to do it > He never mentioned that it took him a long time to do anything It surely did. It's not a simple setup, it's a custom tailored "this is good because I can use Haskell" setup It took a lot of time just to get to understand what he's doing > This has to be the weirdest bikeshedding argument I've ever seen. It's not. It's important to let people know that GNU/Linux is already more than ready for the desktop and that GNU/Linux on the desktop is not about masturbating over complex stuff to get things done > The only reason I can think of why you're so insistent on this distinction is to brag. Mate, you're overreacting. > Yup. There it is. Dude, you're seriously overreacting. I did nothing special, just followed some guide on the internet, it took me days to get there, so nothing cool again. It's a multi monitor setup, who does a tech job on the laptop-screen-only anymore? Do you wanna know the best part? Until I figured out how to setup HiDPI (another thing that on Ubuntu on my home laptop worked out of the box) I had to use the laptop monitor, a 17 inches 4k, with the font size to 24 or it was to small to even read. Cool ah? I'm going to brag about it with Linus now... It's just something that people who are not tech enthusiasts don't do. Get used to it. There's nothing to brag about being obsessed by DIY.