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Honestly, with intense warmongering and politics being broadcast 24/7 in my country, I come to HN to discuss better than what one zealot wants to do to another.

Honestly, with intense warmongering and politics being broadcast 24/7 in my country, I come to HN to discuss better than what one zealot wants to do to another. I already woke up to the news that India had crossed the border, felt sad, decided to browse HN for intellectually stimulating debate and found this instead. Let's please stick to hacker-friendly content? This stuff will just invites a flamewar, and we've got enough war talk happening in the real world.

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l1feh4ck 8y ago
Its a war on terror. Not a war against a particular country. It is better not to have such a debate in HN. #PMKB
- amingilani 8y ago
  Note: #PMKB is a trending hashtag based on a video[0] where a kid says "Pakistan (ki) ma ka bhosda" which translates to "Pakistan's mother vagina", or more loosely, to "fuck Pakistan's mom".[1] I never thought I'd see something like this on HN, but there's a first time for everything. [0]: https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097583981304852483 https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097583981304852483 [1]: This citation translates it incorrectly, but I speak the language. It still corroborates the gist of the content. https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097585602365542400 https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097585602365542400
  - l1feh4ck 8y ago
    When 1.2 Billion people are saying to Pakistan to stop supporting the terrorist and to stop providing them safe heavens, they are denying that there is no terrorist in Pakistan despite the fact that Osama Bin Ladan was captured and killed on their grounds and numerous other terrorist organisations broadcasting terror from their base in Pakistan. India has always been a country that has never attacked any country first. The current government came in to power saying that they will fight the war on terror. And when they do it all the Indians are with them irrespective of the religion or political ideologies. #PMKB is a hashtag trending in the social media which literally translate it to the above-mentioned meaning. It is the rage against terror.
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godelmachine 8y ago
Did you feel sad when Pakistan harbored terrorists blow up innocents in India? Did you feel sad on 14th Feb when JeM attacked the military convoy trucks?
- amingilani 8y ago
  I've had no concrete evidence of Pakistan harboring fugitives yet so I have no feeling either way. I'd condemn it if it were true. I did feel sad even JeM attacked the military convey along with every Pakistani in my immediate surrounding. A loss of life is a terrible thing, and we've been victims of terrorism for years. I'm sorry, were you expecting a different response?
  - godelmachine 8y ago
    Concrete evidence, you say? I will give you a history. Osama bin laden. Hafeez Saeed. Dawood Ibrahim. All of them safe and sound in Pakistan. Just extrapolate and you can arrive at the inescapable conclusion that Pakistan has and is even now, harboring all notorious terrorists. That extends to Mansoor as well. It's a foregone conclusion that Pakistan is the world's biggest exporter of terrorism. Evidence of Hafeez Saeed's involvement in 26/11 was handed over. What did you do with that evidence, huh? Pakistani's have lost the right to ask for evidence any more. You are just another belligerent Pakistani masquerading as a pacifist, when in reality, you are equally warmongering. You have been victims because you milked snakes in your backyard. Do you think you deserve sympathy? Having said that, Indian's felt sad when children were targeted in your schools by terrorists.
    - amingilani 8y ago
      I've answered your first questions but when I couldn't satisfy you, you ask different rhetorical question? You're shifting the goal post at this point, mate. I can only answer straight questions. If by your definition that, and calling war a bad thing is warmongering, consider me guilty. There's never been any concrete evidence of Pakistani involvement, and trust me I've spent my time looking into the diplomatic cables, Hacking Group leaks, searching through Urdu texts, etc. I've only ever been able to find evidence of right suppression in the case of the Pushtoon Tahaffuz Movement, and I've called it for what it is. You can name alleged names, or point to circumstances as you wish but if you believe in something without direct evidence, I can't help you there. Just know that if Pakistan responds to this escalation in kind, this "belligerent Pakistani masquerading as a pacifist" will be sad then, too.

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l1feh4ck 8y ago

Its a war on terror. Not a war against a particular country. It is better not to have such a debate in HN. #PMKB

amingilani 8y ago
Note: #PMKB is a trending hashtag based on a video[0] where a kid says "Pakistan (ki) ma ka bhosda" which translates to "Pakistan's mother vagina", or more loosely, to "fuck Pakistan's mom".[1] I never thought I'd see something like this on HN, but there's a first time for everything. [0]: https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097583981304852483 https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097583981304852483 [1]: This citation translates it incorrectly, but I speak the language. It still corroborates the gist of the content. https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097585602365542400 https://twitter.com/neeraj21345/status/1097585602365542400
- l1feh4ck 8y ago
  When 1.2 Billion people are saying to Pakistan to stop supporting the terrorist and to stop providing them safe heavens, they are denying that there is no terrorist in Pakistan despite the fact that Osama Bin Ladan was captured and killed on their grounds and numerous other terrorist organisations broadcasting terror from their base in Pakistan. India has always been a country that has never attacked any country first. The current government came in to power saying that they will fight the war on terror. And when they do it all the Indians are with them irrespective of the religion or political ideologies. #PMKB is a hashtag trending in the social media which literally translate it to the above-mentioned meaning. It is the rage against terror.

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godelmachine 8y ago

Did you feel sad when Pakistan harbored terrorists blow up innocents in India? Did you feel sad on 14th Feb when JeM attacked the military convoy trucks?

amingilani 8y ago
I've had no concrete evidence of Pakistan harboring fugitives yet so I have no feeling either way. I'd condemn it if it were true. I did feel sad even JeM attacked the military convey along with every Pakistani in my immediate surrounding. A loss of life is a terrible thing, and we've been victims of terrorism for years. I'm sorry, were you expecting a different response?
- godelmachine 8y ago
  Concrete evidence, you say? I will give you a history. Osama bin laden. Hafeez Saeed. Dawood Ibrahim. All of them safe and sound in Pakistan. Just extrapolate and you can arrive at the inescapable conclusion that Pakistan has and is even now, harboring all notorious terrorists. That extends to Mansoor as well. It's a foregone conclusion that Pakistan is the world's biggest exporter of terrorism. Evidence of Hafeez Saeed's involvement in 26/11 was handed over. What did you do with that evidence, huh? Pakistani's have lost the right to ask for evidence any more. You are just another belligerent Pakistani masquerading as a pacifist, when in reality, you are equally warmongering. You have been victims because you milked snakes in your backyard. Do you think you deserve sympathy? Having said that, Indian's felt sad when children were targeted in your schools by terrorists.
  - amingilani 8y ago
    I've answered your first questions but when I couldn't satisfy you, you ask different rhetorical question? You're shifting the goal post at this point, mate. I can only answer straight questions. If by your definition that, and calling war a bad thing is warmongering, consider me guilty. There's never been any concrete evidence of Pakistani involvement, and trust me I've spent my time looking into the diplomatic cables, Hacking Group leaks, searching through Urdu texts, etc. I've only ever been able to find evidence of right suppression in the case of the Pushtoon Tahaffuz Movement, and I've called it for what it is. You can name alleged names, or point to circumstances as you wish but if you believe in something without direct evidence, I can't help you there. Just know that if Pakistan responds to this escalation in kind, this "belligerent Pakistani masquerading as a pacifist" will be sad then, too.