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> The point is, if you skim text, you miss obvious absurdities. The point is OpenAI HAS achieved the ability to pass the Turing test against humans on autopilo
by brianberns 8y ago
> The point is, if you skim text, you miss obvious absurdities. The point is OpenAI HAS achieved the ability to pass the Turing test against humans on autopilot.
The Turning test requires an ongoing conversation between an interrogator and a subject. I think even an interrogator "on autopilot" (whatever that means) would pretty quickly notice if a subject's responses contain "obvious absurdities".
- lifeisstillgood 8y agoI think we concentrate more on a one to one conversation - in fact I would suggest that reading counts is "listening to a public pronouncement" - something that is in the environment and not specific to us. I suspect that twitter counts the same. It's something we don't apply much attention to because it does not look like a human being talking to us. In fact I suspect that a whatsapp that records one human speaking and then plays it back will have a different attention spike than the text based idea Edit: of course I wrote the above on autopilot.
- hyperpallium 8y agoThis raises an interesting issue: if an interrogator "on autopilot" was fooled, is that really a valid Turing test that was passed? Fortunately, the solution is simple: to have a Turing test of the interrogator.
- stargazer-3 8y agoYou'd have to test interrogators' interrogators ad infinitum then.
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- lostmsu 8y agoJust a random associated though: I wonder if the game of Mafia [1] is somewhat better way to discern intelligences, than the Turing test. E.g. imagine a game where mafia (AIs) can eliminate actual humans from the game by convincing their fellow humans, that eliminated people are actually the mafia (e.g. AIs). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28party_game%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28party_game%29
- pas 8y agoSo-so. But it makes emotion a lot more involved. And faking emotions might be hard for humans, it is trivial for AI, and also easy to appeal to our empathy.
- lostmsu 8y agoThe point of the game would be to eliminate AIs, not mafia. No in-game "nights", just a free for all discussion with periodic elimination rounds.
- dcbadacd 8y agoThere's ##werewolf@freenode that would provide you the opportunity to see how hard it is to convince others even as humans, there's even a gamemode where the game bot becomes the wolf and people detect that by just some heuristics and gut feeling.