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Automatic updates are a good thing, otherwise far too many machines would be lagging behind on security fixes.

Zecar 8y ago
> Automatic updates are a good thing. Not in Windows. It would be one thing if it was security updates only, but they are constantly pushing out new features, with new bugs, that need updates to fix, which also introduce new features, with new bugs, that need updates to fix. It's a never-ending treadmill, and the result is not increased security or privacy.
worble 8y ago
Can we stop this tired rhetoric? Yes ideally everyone would keep their system up to date 100% of the time, however it is not a good thing that users have that control stripped away from them, especially when these updates can actually have _adverse_ effects on their systems cough randomly deleting files cough. I may disapprove of users not updating their systems, but I'll defend to the death their right to not do so.
- mywittyname 8y ago
  No. We cannot rely on people to keep their systems updated, and this behavior costs society billions of dollars annually. Because of this people need to either accept automated patching, or stay off of the public internet. This is an entrenched aspect of our society: you're free to do what you want, until your behavior causes negative ramifications to the rest of us, at which point, we as a society reserve the right to regulate poor behavior.
- ggggtez 8y ago
  You can already do that. Buy the business edition. Or use Linux and run windows in a VM. Or block the windows update system in one of a million ways including firewalling it. If you are really such a power user, you can do what you want already. For the millions of others people who don't know how to find facebook without putting it into google search... yeah the automatic updates are good for them, and I'm tired of power users thinking their opinions are the only ones that matter.
  - saganus 8y ago
    Do you know where can I buy one license of the business edition? I recently purchased a Pro license and couldn't find this "LTSB" (I believe it's called) version.
    - DKnoll 8y ago
      It's called Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 (there was a 2016 version as well). Without getting into the Byzantine nature of Microsoft licensing for their enterprise products, I recommend you just use local group policy to set the 'defer updates' option and put yourself on the Current Branch for Business release track in your current Windows 10 Pro.
- piffey 8y ago
  Are you willing to accept responsibility for the breach then?
- criddell 8y ago
  I see it as an analog to public health issues. If you are going to use the public internet, then you need to have automatic updates on. This feels a little like if you are going to attend a public school, you need to be vaccinated.
- jamesgeck0 8y ago
  > updates can actually have _adverse_ effects on their systems While Microsoft's QA leaves much to be desired, there are plenty of instances where non-updated machines have had adverse effects on other people's systems.
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> Automatic updates are a good thing. Not in Windows. It would be one thing if it was security updates only, but they are constantly pushing out new features, with new bugs, that need updates to fix, which also introduce new features, with new bugs, that need updates to fix. It's a never-ending treadmill, and the result is not increased security or privacy.

worble 8y ago

Can we stop this tired rhetoric? Yes ideally everyone would keep their system up to date 100% of the time, however it is not a good thing that users have that control stripped away from them, especially when these updates can actually have _adverse_ effects on their systems cough randomly deleting files cough. I may disapprove of users not updating their systems, but I'll defend to the death their right to not do so.

mywittyname 8y ago
No. We cannot rely on people to keep their systems updated, and this behavior costs society billions of dollars annually. Because of this people need to either accept automated patching, or stay off of the public internet. This is an entrenched aspect of our society: you're free to do what you want, until your behavior causes negative ramifications to the rest of us, at which point, we as a society reserve the right to regulate poor behavior.
ggggtez 8y ago
You can already do that. Buy the business edition. Or use Linux and run windows in a VM. Or block the windows update system in one of a million ways including firewalling it. If you are really such a power user, you can do what you want already. For the millions of others people who don't know how to find facebook without putting it into google search... yeah the automatic updates are good for them, and I'm tired of power users thinking their opinions are the only ones that matter.
- saganus 8y ago
  Do you know where can I buy one license of the business edition? I recently purchased a Pro license and couldn't find this "LTSB" (I believe it's called) version.
  - DKnoll 8y ago
    It's called Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 (there was a 2016 version as well). Without getting into the Byzantine nature of Microsoft licensing for their enterprise products, I recommend you just use local group policy to set the 'defer updates' option and put yourself on the Current Branch for Business release track in your current Windows 10 Pro.
piffey 8y ago
Are you willing to accept responsibility for the breach then?
criddell 8y ago
I see it as an analog to public health issues. If you are going to use the public internet, then you need to have automatic updates on. This feels a little like if you are going to attend a public school, you need to be vaccinated.
jamesgeck0 8y ago
> updates can actually have _adverse_ effects on their systems While Microsoft's QA leaves much to be desired, there are plenty of instances where non-updated machines have had adverse effects on other people's systems.

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