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Are you implying kids of "smart, educated, motivated person" will contribute more than kids of people who don't fall into your arbitrary definition?

by carno 8y ago

EpicEng 8y ago
Obviously genetics and nurture play a massive role in a person's upbringing and largely determine what kind of person they will be. What is the issue here exactly?
mc32 8y ago
If not, why have an education system at all?
- carno 8y ago
  Exactly? Education happens in school, college, friends, community and, partially, at home. The concept that "my kids" are better than other people kids because they are like me is extremely silly on many levels. They might not share your ideals and even if they do, it promotes a single line of thinking.
  - mc32 8y ago
    Which is why it’s weird so many kids from other countries want to come here for their higher studies, right?
    - carno 8y ago
      Not sure I get your point. I don't think it's weird at all. Because: - That happens to every country - One in three top US professors educated overseas https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/one-in-three-top-us-professors-educated-overseas-study-finds https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/one-in-three-top-u... - Most of their classmates will be foreign students too https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign-students-and-graduate-stem-enrollment https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign...
      - deogeo 8y ago
        > That happens to every country Both your sources are for the US only. How did you get to 'every country'?
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - vibrato 8y ago
    The more we learn about iq the more heritable we believe it to be. Up to 80-85% in more recent studies
echelon 8y ago
I think so. There isn't anything controversial being said here. Children given education, good home lives, and goals are more likely to succeed than those without access to those opportunities. It isn't fair, but that doesn't mean we can't look for other ways to improve outcomes across the board.
- carno 8y ago
  So the key is giving more kids those opportunities. Not just some kids.
tom_ 8y ago
But other people and their children are not mentioned.

Are you implying kids of "smart, educated, motivated person" will contribute more than kids of people who don't fall into your arbitrary definition?

by carno 8y ago

Are you implying kids of "smart, educated, motivated person" will contribute more than kids of people who don't fall into your arbitrary definition?

EpicEng 8y ago

Obviously genetics and nurture play a massive role in a person's upbringing and largely determine what kind of person they will be. What is the issue here exactly?

mc32 8y ago

If not, why have an education system at all?

carno 8y ago
Exactly? Education happens in school, college, friends, community and, partially, at home. The concept that "my kids" are better than other people kids because they are like me is extremely silly on many levels. They might not share your ideals and even if they do, it promotes a single line of thinking.
- mc32 8y ago
  Which is why it’s weird so many kids from other countries want to come here for their higher studies, right?
  - carno 8y ago
    Not sure I get your point. I don't think it's weird at all. Because: - That happens to every country - One in three top US professors educated overseas https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/one-in-three-top-us-professors-educated-overseas-study-finds https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/one-in-three-top-u... - Most of their classmates will be foreign students too https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign-students-and-graduate-stem-enrollment https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign...
    - deogeo 8y ago
      > That happens to every country Both your sources are for the US only. How did you get to 'every country'?
- deleted 8y ago
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- vibrato 8y ago
  The more we learn about iq the more heritable we believe it to be. Up to 80-85% in more recent studies

echelon 8y ago

I think so. There isn't anything controversial being said here. Children given education, good home lives, and goals are more likely to succeed than those without access to those opportunities. It isn't fair, but that doesn't mean we can't look for other ways to improve outcomes across the board.

carno 8y ago
So the key is giving more kids those opportunities. Not just some kids.

tom_ 8y ago

But other people and their children are not mentioned.