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I think that everyone who's used AWS or a competitor knows that it's very easy to rack up a large bill by accident. For companies, the main issue isn't the expe

by twunde 8y ago

I think that everyone who's used AWS or a competitor knows that it's very easy to rack up a large bill by accident. For companies, the main issue isn't the expense but the unpredictability.

WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
The use is that most people use AWS like if it was a datacenter they don't own. If you're going for AWS, you should consider rewriting a lot of your services to use AWS features well. Auto Scaling Groups and Fargate EC2 are some common components I see few companies using. If your instances are the same size through the day, you are doing it wrong!* *Exception: If you provide the same level of service and traffic 24/7.
- exabrial 8y ago
  This is [unfortunately] correct. If you marry your company's destiny to AWS, their managed products are far more cost-effective than using them as a datacenter [no doubt this is intentional by Amazon]. If you're just using the EC2 services, much like owning the hardware, unused CPU and RAM is wasted money.
- breckenedge 8y ago
  I recently gave Fargate a try and was very unimpressed with the costs. Anecdata is terrible, but my experience running 1 Fargate container 24x7 on the lowest specs (0.25 CPU and 512 MB RAM) to handle baseline was was going to cost as much as a no-contract T3.micro EC2 instance with much more capacity (2 CPU and 1 GB RAM). AWS Kubernetes was also a bust at $120/mo just to get started (that's the cost before an EC2 server is provisioned).
  - WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
    Fargate has two flavors, ECS or EC2. EC2 is just EC2 with scaling groups while ECS is a fully non-managed solution that's for small items.
    - JBReefer 8y ago
      The ECS one is weirdly difficult to set up. If you just want Docker Repo (ECR) -> deploy with some config -> expose a single ingress point it sounds perfect, but I had a TON of trouble with it recently
      - WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
        ECS is best done through Terraform, there's existing templates that will allow you to do this fairly easily.
      - breckenedge 8y ago
        If it helps, I had the exact same experience. Setup was possible but involved way too many decisions for the obvious use case.

by twunde 8y ago

I think that everyone who's used AWS or a competitor knows that it's very easy to rack up a large bill by accident. For companies, the main issue isn't the expense but the unpredictability.

WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago

The use is that most people use AWS like if it was a datacenter they don't own. If you're going for AWS, you should consider rewriting a lot of your services to use AWS features well. Auto Scaling Groups and Fargate EC2 are some common components I see few companies using. If your instances are the same size through the day, you are doing it wrong!* *Exception: If you provide the same level of service and traffic 24/7.

exabrial 8y ago
This is [unfortunately] correct. If you marry your company's destiny to AWS, their managed products are far more cost-effective than using them as a datacenter [no doubt this is intentional by Amazon]. If you're just using the EC2 services, much like owning the hardware, unused CPU and RAM is wasted money.
breckenedge 8y ago
I recently gave Fargate a try and was very unimpressed with the costs. Anecdata is terrible, but my experience running 1 Fargate container 24x7 on the lowest specs (0.25 CPU and 512 MB RAM) to handle baseline was was going to cost as much as a no-contract T3.micro EC2 instance with much more capacity (2 CPU and 1 GB RAM). AWS Kubernetes was also a bust at $120/mo just to get started (that's the cost before an EC2 server is provisioned).
- WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
  Fargate has two flavors, ECS or EC2. EC2 is just EC2 with scaling groups while ECS is a fully non-managed solution that's for small items.
  - JBReefer 8y ago
    The ECS one is weirdly difficult to set up. If you just want Docker Repo (ECR) -> deploy with some config -> expose a single ingress point it sounds perfect, but I had a TON of trouble with it recently
    - WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
      ECS is best done through Terraform, there's existing templates that will allow you to do this fairly easily.
    - breckenedge 8y ago
      If it helps, I had the exact same experience. Setup was possible but involved way too many decisions for the obvious use case.