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Once the attacker gets physical access to your device/computer all bets are off. Not to mention if "your device" is actually provided by a hostile party(i.e ama
by thefounder 8y ago
Once the attacker gets physical access to your device/computer all bets are off. Not to mention if "your device" is actually provided by a hostile party(i.e amazon/microsoft in collaboration with various US agencies).
A government/state is hostile if it breaks the laws designed to protect the citizens and their freedoms(i.e privacy). I believe it's obvious by now that the U.S government seeks not only to apply its justice system over sovereign states but also to control the politics and get strategic information, even from its "allies".
- close04 8y agoWhat's your threat model here? Who's the actor you're protecting yourself from? A government/state acting under they own laws is still acting under a law so they would never have physical access to something like an HSM located in a DC on another continent. Or even your laptop that's sitting in another country. A government/state acting around the law makes any discussion about laws superfluous. They will go around them anyway, as per the premise.
- dragonwriter 8y ago> A government/state acting under they own laws is still acting under a law so they would never have physical access to something like an HSM located in a DC on another continent. A government’s own laws may restrict what it can do outside of its own territory, but those restrictions, if they exist, don't always include following local law, and so it's entirely unjustified to conclude that a government acting under its own laws would not have the described access.
- close04 8y agoWhat I meant is if the US government wants to access data in a German datacenter it can either try via a warrant which I imagine would not be legally enforceable in the EU (at least not without the cloud provider breaking EU law), or via hacking which makes any law irrelevant.