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> Mother Nature (...) will not remember us when we are gone. She will. Yes, she will outlive us, but with very heavy losses. Due to these losses, it will be ve

by acqq 8y ago

> Mother Nature (...) will not remember us when we are gone. She will. Yes, she will outlive us, but with very heavy losses. Due to these losses, it will be very obvious we have existed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction "one of the most significant extinction events in the history of the Earth" ... "is mainly a result of human activity." "The current rate of extinction of species is estimated at 100 to 1,000 times higher than natural background rates." And we "just started" (considering the known effects of the human induced global warming).

garmaine 8y ago
I think you missed the point of the comment. If human beings drive ourselves extinct, life will eventually rebound just as it has from other, even larger mass extinctions.
- acqq 8y ago
  What the comment actually claimed is that whatever will be after us "will not remember us." Which is not true. Other comparable extinctions to the one we are currently causing are on the hundreds of the millions of years scale. What we are causing will be definitely seen as an extinction event for at least millions of years in the future. That's how big it is. "The life will eventually rebound" is completely different from it "will not remember us."
  - garmaine 8y ago
    Mother Nature won’t remember us. Mother Nature is a non conscious evolutionary process. The non-human conscious entities within it lack the means to carry on cultural memory of the hairless primates that once ravaged their world. That doesn’t mean there won’t be a record of us though.. any future evolved tool-wielding intelligence would certainly be able to infer our presence.
    - acqq 8y ago
      > Mother Nature is a non conscious evolutionary process. Of course, and it's completely obvious that I never claimed human consciousness of the whole nature (you can read elsewhere my view of consciousness, hint: it's not given by deities). The answer is not even a response to what I actually wrote.

by acqq 8y ago

garmaine 8y ago

I think you missed the point of the comment. If human beings drive ourselves extinct, life will eventually rebound just as it has from other, even larger mass extinctions.

acqq 8y ago
What the comment actually claimed is that whatever will be after us "will not remember us." Which is not true. Other comparable extinctions to the one we are currently causing are on the hundreds of the millions of years scale. What we are causing will be definitely seen as an extinction event for at least millions of years in the future. That's how big it is. "The life will eventually rebound" is completely different from it "will not remember us."
- garmaine 8y ago
  Mother Nature won’t remember us. Mother Nature is a non conscious evolutionary process. The non-human conscious entities within it lack the means to carry on cultural memory of the hairless primates that once ravaged their world. That doesn’t mean there won’t be a record of us though.. any future evolved tool-wielding intelligence would certainly be able to infer our presence.
  - acqq 8y ago
    > Mother Nature is a non conscious evolutionary process. Of course, and it's completely obvious that I never claimed human consciousness of the whole nature (you can read elsewhere my view of consciousness, hint: it's not given by deities). The answer is not even a response to what I actually wrote.