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The way you get this to end is by annoying the common people of Australia. The Internet death penalty would be one way—have FAANG completely stop doing business
by koenigdavidmj 8y ago
The way you get this to end is by annoying the common people of Australia. The Internet death penalty would be one way—have FAANG completely stop doing business in Australia until this is repealed, and block Australians from their services. No Facebook, no new copies of Windows, no new Macs, nothing that runs on AWS. It’s a small enough country that it wouldn’t really be a dent in their bottom lines. Congratulations, you just got most of a country to angrily write their parliament-critters.
- jaytaylor 8y agoYou may not realize: AWS has a data center region in Sydney, AUS
- mirimir 8y agoYou'd think that they'd want to close that sucker.
- sargun 8y agoDoes amazon own and operate it?
- lewisinc 8y agoYes? Of course they do.
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y agoNot completely a given; their China footprint isn't directly them.
- latch 8y agoWhy "of course"? At one point in time (and this is probably still true), AWS was a client of various wholesale (and even wholesale/direct to consumer) in some regions. Equinix, Tata, Digital Realty Trust, ... AWS is is big, but there are a number of much bigger players.
- pas 8y agoOperations can mean anything. If Amazon has staff at the location and exclusive cage access, and only dark fiber and electricity coming in, then it doesn't really mean who owns the physical site. If AWS outsources physical security to the DC operator, and doesn't enforce other kinds of operational isolation, then it's of course doesn't matter what else AWS does there.
- laurentl 8y ago> Congratulations, you just got most of a country to angrily write their parliament-critters. Yes, and you also got every single other country in the world to take notice and to wonder what would happen if the same happened to them... leading to ad hoc legislation, actively looking for alternative providers, and a surge of new, sometimes govt-backed competitors (you know, in the name of national independence). Not to mention that all your existing competitors will start yelling “we would NEVER do that” at the top of their lungs. The FANG may be as powerful as big nations, but event the biggest country needs a very good reason to declare war —and defending privacy isn’t it.
- Freak_NL 8y ago> […] and a surge of new, sometimes govt-backed competitors (you know, in the name of national independence). Not sure if this is worse or better than FAANG. I can see the appeal though.
- hguhghuff 8y agoThere’s no alternative providers. Countries don’t have the power to dethrone FAANG.
- pjc50 8y agoChina never allowed them to ascend the throne in China in the first place, because it's very firmly reserved for the CCP.
- laurentl 8y agoThere may be no global, credible alternatives now. There would most certainly be local, semi-credible alternatives gaining ground shortly after such a move. If the biggest, most entrenched provider suddenly disappears... well that’s going to give some ideas to a lot of people. There are other search engines (maybe not as powerful as Google, but if you don’t have a choice...). There are other e-commerce platforms, and there are a shitload of cloud providers. There are other high-end phone and laptop manufacturers. There may not be a credible FB alternative (but I’m not shedding any tears over that). The only real crazy-hard-to-replace infrastructure IMO is the App Store duopoly. As another poster pointed out, there are countries (Russia, China) where credible alternative providers evolved because FAANG were not allowed to enter the market. In time, the same would happen if they were to leave a market.