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Like Fourier analysis, every component sine wave is conscious, and every possible superposition of sine waves is also conscious. It's turtles all the way down.
by hyperpallium 8y ago
Like Fourier analysis, every component sine wave is conscious, and every possible superposition of sine waves is also conscious. It's turtles all the way down.
What does it mean for an atom, an electron, a sine wave to be conscious? What can it perceive, consider, how can it act? But those are awarenesss, reason, agency... distinct from "consciousness".
Just because an entity cannot assert itself, does not mean it is not conscious.
- hackinthebochs 8y agoBut at this point, what are you actually saying? What does turtles-all-the-way-down consciousness actually pick out? I have a hard time seeing it as informative. That is, the statement "everything is conscious" is doing no work for you in describing the thing in question.
- hyperpallium 8y agoI'm merely elaborating/expanding to show the extremity of "everything is conscious".
- steve76 8y agoHow about the opposite? Everything is a consequence of human consciousness.
- paraschopra 8y ago> Just because an entity cannot assert itself, does not mean it is not conscious. This does not give any more purchase on the world than we currently have. It’s similar to saying that just because we have never seen laws of physics change, it doesn’t mean they can’t change. Of course, that may or may not be true. But would you bet on sun not rising tomorrow? New scientific theories / entities must have give us additional predictive power (grip) than what’s currently possible. Otherwise why invent new assumptions?
- hyperpallium 8y agoFor sure. The one thing it does is "solve" the problem of consciousness in a surprising, entertaining, and absurd way.