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This might sound dumb. But, I use ProtonVPN because Mozilla partnered with them and I place trust in Mozilla’s ability to make a more informed choice than I can

by dfee 8y ago

This might sound dumb. But, I use ProtonVPN because Mozilla partnered with them and I place trust in Mozilla’s ability to make a more informed choice than I can make — largely due to their access to information and on hand knowledge and expertise. https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/10/22/testing-new-ways-to-keep-you-safe-online/ https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/10/22/testing-n...

elliotec 8y ago
I also use ProtonVPN, and proton mail, which I can also highly recommend.
zenlot 8y ago
There are a lot of previous discussions on Proton{VPN,Mail} to read up: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=protonvpn&sort=byPopularity&prefix=false&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=protonvpn&sort=byPopularity&pr...
arosier 8y ago
I also use ProtonVPN. *disclaimer, I also work for ProtonMail so my use of ProtonVPN is more of a company perk, but one I enjoy.
Kaveren 8y ago
Let me remind everyone that ProtonVPN is the only VPN service publicly available I know of that owns even a small portion of their own hardware and data center.
phillc73 8y ago
As much as I would like to support Mozilla, connecting to protonvpn.com with Firefox 65.0.1 throws me an insecure site error: Your connection is not secure The owner of protonvpn.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. Doesn't inspire confidence.
- worble 8y ago
  Have you messed with your certs? It should be absolutely fine. I read over the weekend that some people were distrusting QuoVadis because or something or other to do with DarkMatter? I don't really understand too much about it, but proton use QuoVadis[0] so you'll get improper SSL for their sites if you did that. [0]https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/au7zcz/how_to_remove_darkmatter_certificates_from/ https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/au7zcz/how_to_remo...
  - phillc73 8y ago
    No, but.... The above error was from my office. When connecting to ProtonVPN's website via a VPN, there is no error. Seems like it could be a certificate configuration error with the network I'm using, which is odd because it's a University and I've not seen that error anywhere else I regularly visit.
    - bad_news_ 8y ago
      Uh oh, your network is potentially unpacking SSL traffic for inspection. They've likely forced you to accept a self-signed root CA (probably as requirement to access wi-fi) so they can intercept and scan encrypted connections. Never do anything important or personally identifiable on that network. Scummy admins are running it.
    - HenryBemis 8y ago
      >No, but.... The above error was from my office So.. IT that manages the certs and the gateway, use a MIMT 'attack' to decrypt all your traffic, scan/read it, and then encrypt it again to send it out to the wilderness of the Internet. This is what the browser is messaging. Notifying you that "something is wrong with the connection. Browser is not sure what exactly, thus pointing the finger on the certificate. Perhaps someone can explain the above with more technical terms, but in a nutshell, our companies, on our corporate desktops/laptops sniff through each and every bit and byte that goes in and out of our machines. A commom workardound "permanent accept this exception" (or similar wording) makes the browser to stop complaining about this breach of privacy.
jsingleton 8y ago
I use ProtonVPN (and ProtonMail) for business but I haven't been that impressed so far. For personal use (e.g. BBC abroad) I just use OpenVPN on a Raspberry Pi. I recently wrote a full review on my blog (so I won't repeat it all here): https://unop.uk/protonmail-review/ https://unop.uk/protonmail-review/
- kjsbfkjbf 8y ago
  I'd definitely be interested in a guide on how to set up a proxy on a free-tier cloud hosting site. Finding that ProtonVPN does not let me watch content I legally pay for if I'm in a different region...
- arosier 8y ago
  Just want to let you know you can delete your payment method by visiting the "Payments" tab within the Settings of your account. Also, Bridge is receiving a lot of attention internally. Your v1.1.1 experience will continue to improve. Appreciate your feedback.

by dfee 8y ago

elliotec 8y ago

I also use ProtonVPN, and proton mail, which I can also highly recommend.

zenlot 8y ago

There are a lot of previous discussions on Proton{VPN,Mail} to read up: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=protonvpn&sort=byPopularity&prefix=false&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=protonvpn&sort=byPopularity&pr...

arosier 8y ago

I also use ProtonVPN. *disclaimer, I also work for ProtonMail so my use of ProtonVPN is more of a company perk, but one I enjoy.

Kaveren 8y ago

Let me remind everyone that ProtonVPN is the only VPN service publicly available I know of that owns even a small portion of their own hardware and data center.

phillc73 8y ago

As much as I would like to support Mozilla, connecting to protonvpn.com with Firefox 65.0.1 throws me an insecure site error: Your connection is not secure The owner of protonvpn.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. Doesn't inspire confidence.

worble 8y ago
Have you messed with your certs? It should be absolutely fine. I read over the weekend that some people were distrusting QuoVadis because or something or other to do with DarkMatter? I don't really understand too much about it, but proton use QuoVadis[0] so you'll get improper SSL for their sites if you did that. [0]https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/au7zcz/how_to_remove_darkmatter_certificates_from/ https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/au7zcz/how_to_remo...
- phillc73 8y ago
  No, but.... The above error was from my office. When connecting to ProtonVPN's website via a VPN, there is no error. Seems like it could be a certificate configuration error with the network I'm using, which is odd because it's a University and I've not seen that error anywhere else I regularly visit.
  - bad_news_ 8y ago
    Uh oh, your network is potentially unpacking SSL traffic for inspection. They've likely forced you to accept a self-signed root CA (probably as requirement to access wi-fi) so they can intercept and scan encrypted connections. Never do anything important or personally identifiable on that network. Scummy admins are running it.
  - HenryBemis 8y ago
    >No, but.... The above error was from my office So.. IT that manages the certs and the gateway, use a MIMT 'attack' to decrypt all your traffic, scan/read it, and then encrypt it again to send it out to the wilderness of the Internet. This is what the browser is messaging. Notifying you that "something is wrong with the connection. Browser is not sure what exactly, thus pointing the finger on the certificate. Perhaps someone can explain the above with more technical terms, but in a nutshell, our companies, on our corporate desktops/laptops sniff through each and every bit and byte that goes in and out of our machines. A commom workardound "permanent accept this exception" (or similar wording) makes the browser to stop complaining about this breach of privacy.

jsingleton 8y ago

I use ProtonVPN (and ProtonMail) for business but I haven't been that impressed so far. For personal use (e.g. BBC abroad) I just use OpenVPN on a Raspberry Pi. I recently wrote a full review on my blog (so I won't repeat it all here): https://unop.uk/protonmail-review/ https://unop.uk/protonmail-review/

kjsbfkjbf 8y ago
I'd definitely be interested in a guide on how to set up a proxy on a free-tier cloud hosting site. Finding that ProtonVPN does not let me watch content I legally pay for if I'm in a different region...
arosier 8y ago
Just want to let you know you can delete your payment method by visiting the "Payments" tab within the Settings of your account. Also, Bridge is receiving a lot of attention internally. Your v1.1.1 experience will continue to improve. Appreciate your feedback.