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A Call to End the Use of “Lol”

16 points by bootload 16y ago

iwr 16y ago
There is actually no other word in literary language that conveys the full meanings of lol. It is here to stay!
ZeroMinx 16y ago
roflmao
noglorp 16y ago
I lol'ed when it was still cool.
mwilcox 16y ago
lol
wanderr 16y ago
lolz, if anything "lol" is gaining traction among the internet generation. I work with a bunch of geeks my age or younger, and several of them actually say "lol" irl when they think something is funny, usually accompanied by actual laughter.
- fhars 16y ago
  Among non-geek german kids "lol" works almost like a normal adverb in everyday conversation...
po 16y ago
Even better than this article is the author's call in the comments to stop using "fag" and "faggot" and replace it with "sag" and "saget"; references to the Full House character. "You're such a saget" I could get used to that.
uniclaude 16y ago
Am I the only one who finds LVML weird ?
gdl 16y ago
I thought "lvml" sounded like a markup language, but it turns out that emotionml already exists and should fit our needs. http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/XGR-emotionml-20081120/ http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/XGR-emotionml-20081... Therefore, to fight back against the vagueness and possible misinterpretation of Internet slang, I propose that in the future "lol" be replaced by something like the following: <emotionml xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2008/11/emotionml"> <emotion> <modality mode="face"/> <category set="everydayEmotions" name="amusement" confidence="0.8"/> <link role="experiencedBy" uri="file:john.vcard"/> <link role="expressedBy" uri="file:johnsParty.avi" start="10s" end="15s"/> <link role="triggeredBy" uri="file:guestList.xml#numberOfGuests"/> </emotion> </emotionml>
- sibsibsib 16y ago
  all the cool kids are using emoSON these days.
JanezStupar 16y ago
At first I was like huh? But then I LoL'd!
gfodor 16y ago
tl;dr: lol -> lvml
ahyes 16y ago
lol, that guy put a lot of effort into writing about the problems associated with lol. PFIYAM (pretty funny if you ask me)
Fargren 16y ago
lvml
rohan037 16y ago
You do not, and you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT question tradition. Today it's 'lol', tomorrow you'll want to end christmas.
joelmichael 16y ago
I have spent way too much time in ironic internet communities and "lol" is still popular. Tone is mainly an issue of character development. The cool people will understand when you are being ironic based on knowing who you are. This is only possible in actual communities with a limited number of regulars where people pay attention to usernames, avatars, and individual posting styles. In places like Reddit or HN where you are effectively just another anonymous poster, that character development is sort of impossible, restricting your communication options to something generic and official. If there was any interest in changing this, allowing us to add an icon next to our posts would dramatically increase user recognizability on HN. On the SomethingAwful forums, only the lame (but very popular) boards such as "General Bullshit" require that you type with proper capitalization and punctuation, and will actually punish you if you use "lol". The relaxed and more communal boards typically type in all lowercase and acronyms are common. Yes there's a hint of irony in even using the acronyms but they are still not going anywhere.
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cmars232 16y ago
Back in '95 when my wife and I were dating, we didn't have a lol. Most of the campus was vt220s hooked up to a VAX, local chat was done with a DCL command called 'phone'. To simulate laughter we would mash random characters from the home keys. The longer the string, and the farther out from the home keys, the harder the laugh. I don't know, I still think it's a more expressive way to laugh in a terminal.
- syaz1 16y ago
  Not a LOL but you got a giggle out of me.

16 points by bootload 16y ago

iwr 16y ago

There is actually no other word in literary language that conveys the full meanings of lol. It is here to stay!

ZeroMinx 16y ago

roflmao

noglorp 16y ago

I lol'ed when it was still cool.

mwilcox 16y ago

lol

wanderr 16y ago

lolz, if anything "lol" is gaining traction among the internet generation. I work with a bunch of geeks my age or younger, and several of them actually say "lol" irl when they think something is funny, usually accompanied by actual laughter.

fhars 16y ago
Among non-geek german kids "lol" works almost like a normal adverb in everyday conversation...

po 16y ago

Even better than this article is the author's call in the comments to stop using "fag" and "faggot" and replace it with "sag" and "saget"; references to the Full House character. "You're such a saget" I could get used to that.

uniclaude 16y ago

Am I the only one who finds LVML weird ?

gdl 16y ago

I thought "lvml" sounded like a markup language, but it turns out that emotionml already exists and should fit our needs. http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/XGR-emotionml-20081120/ http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/XGR-emotionml-20081... Therefore, to fight back against the vagueness and possible misinterpretation of Internet slang, I propose that in the future "lol" be replaced by something like the following: <emotionml xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2008/11/emotionml"> <emotion> <modality mode="face"/> <category set="everydayEmotions" name="amusement" confidence="0.8"/> <link role="experiencedBy" uri="file:john.vcard"/> <link role="expressedBy" uri="file:johnsParty.avi" start="10s" end="15s"/> <link role="triggeredBy" uri="file:guestList.xml#numberOfGuests"/> </emotion> </emotionml>

sibsibsib 16y ago
all the cool kids are using emoSON these days.

JanezStupar 16y ago

At first I was like huh? But then I LoL'd!

gfodor 16y ago

tl;dr: lol -> lvml

ahyes 16y ago

lol, that guy put a lot of effort into writing about the problems associated with lol. PFIYAM (pretty funny if you ask me)

Fargren 16y ago

lvml

rohan037 16y ago

You do not, and you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT question tradition. Today it's 'lol', tomorrow you'll want to end christmas.

joelmichael 16y ago

I have spent way too much time in ironic internet communities and "lol" is still popular. Tone is mainly an issue of character development. The cool people will understand when you are being ironic based on knowing who you are. This is only possible in actual communities with a limited number of regulars where people pay attention to usernames, avatars, and individual posting styles. In places like Reddit or HN where you are effectively just another anonymous poster, that character development is sort of impossible, restricting your communication options to something generic and official. If there was any interest in changing this, allowing us to add an icon next to our posts would dramatically increase user recognizability on HN. On the SomethingAwful forums, only the lame (but very popular) boards such as "General Bullshit" require that you type with proper capitalization and punctuation, and will actually punish you if you use "lol". The relaxed and more communal boards typically type in all lowercase and acronyms are common. Yes there's a hint of irony in even using the acronyms but they are still not going anywhere.

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cmars232 16y ago

Back in '95 when my wife and I were dating, we didn't have a lol. Most of the campus was vt220s hooked up to a VAX, local chat was done with a DCL command called 'phone'. To simulate laughter we would mash random characters from the home keys. The longer the string, and the farther out from the home keys, the harder the laugh. I don't know, I still think it's a more expressive way to laugh in a terminal.

syaz1 16y ago
Not a LOL but you got a giggle out of me.