Skimming through that list they look like long-running businesses, not startups. They may have been startups once upon a time (same as any publicly-traded busin

Skimming through that list they look like long-running businesses, not startups. They may have been startups once upon a time (same as any publicly-traded business for that matter), but they're completely irrelevant to a discussion of where modern day startups seeking to scale to billion dollar entities should be founded.