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Wow. How often do I have to repeat that disabled people are not able-bodied and don't have the same choices the abled do. Disabled people rarely earn an income

Wow. How often do I have to repeat that disabled people are not able-bodied and don't have the same choices the abled do. Disabled people rarely earn an income above poverty, they can't necessarily stock items (nor can needs always be anticipated.) They can't hire a service to shop for them. Again, what's my second source that delivers to my door? As for ER - seriously ill disabled people simply can't go to ER every time there's a problem that might go badly wrong - they don't have the health, and will also get black-balled by the ER if they do this too often, in which case the quality of service they get becomes abysmal. This is probably the most difficult, heart-breaking choice they face. With many health conditions, symptoms are so various that if you don't they don't show up at ER falsely fairly often you're risking your life. But if you do show up at ER frequently, that too risks your life, if you're labelled as a bad patient. Your comment blames the victim, repeatedly. Ableism all day long. Many health conditions include cognitive deficits, even if only from extreme fatigue. Not to mention that head injuries are a kind of disability, and social support for head injuries isn't better than for other disabilities, it's considerably worse. Again, I'm being swatted for suggesting that it might be a good thing for Amazon to plan around accidents. I'm very willing to believe that this doesn't affect able bodied people nearly as much as it affects many of the one in five Americans with a disability. Good on ya. Now open your hearts.

AnthonyMouse 8y ago
There are dozens of services that will deliver to your door or via FedEx/UPS/DHL/USPS. It seems like your main complaint is that "guaranteed two day delivery" is a money back guarantee rather than an actual damages guarantee that would give suppliers a greater incentive to achieve 99.999999% reliability instead of 99%. But there are services that will satisfy those guarantees, and they're more expensive than Amazon precisely because they have to price in the cost of taking the steps necessary to achieve that level of reliability. "Fast, reliable, cheap; pick two" is not a conspiracy against the disabled.
- daveFNbuck 8y ago
  "guaranteed two day delivery" is not a money back guarantee. It's just a slogan. Maybe half of my Prime packages make it to my door within two days. Amazon only really guarantees that you'll get the package eventually.
  - AnthonyMouse 8y ago
    It's a money back guarantee because you can cancel/return the item and get your money back. They also happen to provide the same guarantee in the event you decide you don't want the item for other reasons.
    - daveFNbuck 8y ago
      When a company tells me 2-day delivery is guaranteed or my money back, I expect to get my money back when the delivery takes longer than 2 days. I don't expect to have to return the item. What's the point of a guarantee if I'd be in the exact same situation without it?
      - AnthonyMouse 8y ago
        Suppose you buy some balloons for a party that's in three days. They arrive in four days. By the time you receive them, the party's over and you have no use for them. If there was no delivery guarantee, you not only didn't have them when you needed them, now you do have them when you don't need them and are out the money. With the guarantee, you send them back and get a refund. It also allows you to send back items that arrive late even if you do still want them, allowing you to punish them by returning the item only to go buy it from a competitor.
        daveFNbuck 8y ago
        You said Amazon lets you return them without the delivery guarantee. What does the delivery guarantee add here? I pay $100 for Prime so I can get items I want to keep long-term faster. What good does being able to return them do me? If the guarantee meant anything I'd get some of the $100 I paid for the 2-day shipping back for items that arrived late and weren't returned.
sigstoat 8y ago
> Again, I'm being swatted for suggesting that it might be a good thing for Amazon to plan around accidents. you're being swatted for the disingenuous grandstanding of suggesting they should have a plan, when you already know what the plan of _every_ shipping company is[1], and you know that the portions relevant to you will be covered in the terms and conditions you skip over, despite the supposed importance of this subject to you. maybe you want them to have a different plan, but that's not what you're saying. [1]: refund shipping costs, and pay out whatever insurance was purchased on the shipment, subject to some contract-specified delay.

AnthonyMouse 8y ago

There are dozens of services that will deliver to your door or via FedEx/UPS/DHL/USPS. It seems like your main complaint is that "guaranteed two day delivery" is a money back guarantee rather than an actual damages guarantee that would give suppliers a greater incentive to achieve 99.999999% reliability instead of 99%. But there are services that will satisfy those guarantees, and they're more expensive than Amazon precisely because they have to price in the cost of taking the steps necessary to achieve that level of reliability. "Fast, reliable, cheap; pick two" is not a conspiracy against the disabled.

daveFNbuck 8y ago
"guaranteed two day delivery" is not a money back guarantee. It's just a slogan. Maybe half of my Prime packages make it to my door within two days. Amazon only really guarantees that you'll get the package eventually.
- AnthonyMouse 8y ago
  It's a money back guarantee because you can cancel/return the item and get your money back. They also happen to provide the same guarantee in the event you decide you don't want the item for other reasons.
  - daveFNbuck 8y ago
    When a company tells me 2-day delivery is guaranteed or my money back, I expect to get my money back when the delivery takes longer than 2 days. I don't expect to have to return the item. What's the point of a guarantee if I'd be in the exact same situation without it?
    - AnthonyMouse 8y ago
      Suppose you buy some balloons for a party that's in three days. They arrive in four days. By the time you receive them, the party's over and you have no use for them. If there was no delivery guarantee, you not only didn't have them when you needed them, now you do have them when you don't need them and are out the money. With the guarantee, you send them back and get a refund. It also allows you to send back items that arrive late even if you do still want them, allowing you to punish them by returning the item only to go buy it from a competitor.
      - daveFNbuck 8y ago
        You said Amazon lets you return them without the delivery guarantee. What does the delivery guarantee add here? I pay $100 for Prime so I can get items I want to keep long-term faster. What good does being able to return them do me? If the guarantee meant anything I'd get some of the $100 I paid for the 2-day shipping back for items that arrived late and weren't returned.

sigstoat 8y ago

> Again, I'm being swatted for suggesting that it might be a good thing for Amazon to plan around accidents. you're being swatted for the disingenuous grandstanding of suggesting they should have a plan, when you already know what the plan of _every_ shipping company is[1], and you know that the portions relevant to you will be covered in the terms and conditions you skip over, despite the supposed importance of this subject to you. maybe you want them to have a different plan, but that's not what you're saying. [1]: refund shipping costs, and pay out whatever insurance was purchased on the shipment, subject to some contract-specified delay.