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For those unfamiliar (like myself), what is this?
by throwawaymath 8y ago
For those unfamiliar (like myself), what is this?
- tlrobinson 8y agoAir Traffic Control recording in the vicinity of the crash.
- Nomentatus 8y agoOne of the radio apps I downloaded for my phone last year included ATC channels as well as police channels. I found it oddly calming and reassuring listening to Chicago police channel, since it proved that someone who gave a damn was always out there, taking care of us.
- anamexis 8y agoI find listening to ATC communications similarly soothing, even when it is regarding accidents or problems. The poise and professionalism of ATC is pretty astounding. My go-to is this YouTube channel, which highlights various bits of ATC communication and overlays maps as it happens https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuedf_fJVrOppky5gl3U6QQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuedf_fJVrOppky5gl3U6QQ
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- pmohun 8y agoWhat was the app called?
- tyingq 8y agoAir traffic control. You hear them talking to, then losing contact with the flight. They refer to the flight mostly as "591 Heavy", though you'll also hear "3591". There's several references. Around 27:09 you can hear them talk about looking for a lost aircraft.
- throwawaymath 8y agoOh cool, thanks. I didn't realize this chatter is public.
- mikeash 8y agoAircraft communication, including ATC, is mostly done using plain old VHF radio. You can buy a decent handheld air band radio for $200. Ancient technology, but it works well enough.
- RockyMcNuts 8y agoTrue, works well enough, and also it's a disaster waiting to happen for very obvious cybersecurity reasons
- CPLX 8y agoI’m not finding those reasons to be as obvious as you, perhaps you could elaborate.
- polishTar 8y agoWhat’s stopping someone from impersonating ATC? If I understand correctly, a foggy day + “cleared for takeoff” is all that’s needed for a malicious actor to kill hundreds of people
- tyingq 8y agoNot much, but I suspect building and running a crypto infrastructure in a secure way for everything from tiny privately owned aircraft to international carriers isn't easy.
- ceejayoz 8y ago> If I understand correctly, a foggy day + “cleared for takeoff” is all that’s needed for a malicious actor to kill hundreds of people Only if the real ATC really, really drops the ball. It's happened a few times, and leads to an immediate "who the fuck was that on this frequency?", and that's likely to result in the pilots in the area treating it like a comms outage. See https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/44279/what-prevents-someone-from-hijacking-a-radio-frequency-mid-air https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/44279/what-prev...
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