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This is treason and I don’t see why it would be punished differently.

tvanantwerp 8y ago
But...this isn't treason. Fraud, yes. Definitely fraud. But unless there is some other evidence that this fraud was committed with the specific intent of aiding a foreign power rather than just line the pockets of the telecoms, then no, not treason.
- JohnJamesRambo 8y ago
  “the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.” Maybe I’m being a little hyperbolic, it isn’t the government being overthrown but one branch of it and certainly what the public wanted was intentionally silenced.
  - smt88 8y ago
    The Republican Party is the minority party and have most of the power in the US at every level. By definition, most things that they do will be fairly unpopular, and some things they do will be wildly unpopular.
  - jimrandomh 8y ago
    You are being more than a little bit hyperbolic, and it's bad for the conversation when people do that.
  - javagram 8y ago
    Expansive interpretations of "Treason", such as the one you propose, are explicitly prohibited by the US Constitution due to their abuse by european monarchies to silence dissent. "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." Article 3 Section 3. As a result of this strict standard, the last successful prosecution for treason in the USA was in 1952...
dtornabene 8y ago
definitely a good look to call for death on a web page. good stuff here. and, as a sibiling commenter pointed out, this isn't treason kids, at all. signed, someone who despises Ajit, the telecoms, and has followed FCC shenangins for years
- lightedman 8y ago
  Treason is giving comfort and aid to our enemies - Foreign or DOMESTIC. Right now, the Republican Party most certainly counts as a domestic enemy. Pay more attention in civics class next time, okay? It's this sort of ignorance that led to Republicans holding office and power in this shape and fashion.

But...this isn't treason. Fraud, yes. Definitely fraud. But unless there is some other evidence that this fraud was committed with the specific intent of aiding a foreign power rather than just line the pockets of the telecoms, then no, not treason.

JohnJamesRambo 8y ago
“the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.” Maybe I’m being a little hyperbolic, it isn’t the government being overthrown but one branch of it and certainly what the public wanted was intentionally silenced.
- smt88 8y ago
  The Republican Party is the minority party and have most of the power in the US at every level. By definition, most things that they do will be fairly unpopular, and some things they do will be wildly unpopular.
- jimrandomh 8y ago
  You are being more than a little bit hyperbolic, and it's bad for the conversation when people do that.
- javagram 8y ago
  Expansive interpretations of "Treason", such as the one you propose, are explicitly prohibited by the US Constitution due to their abuse by european monarchies to silence dissent. "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." Article 3 Section 3. As a result of this strict standard, the last successful prosecution for treason in the USA was in 1952...

dtornabene 8y ago

definitely a good look to call for death on a web page. good stuff here. and, as a sibiling commenter pointed out, this isn't treason kids, at all. signed, someone who despises Ajit, the telecoms, and has followed FCC shenangins for years

lightedman 8y ago
Treason is giving comfort and aid to our enemies - Foreign or DOMESTIC. Right now, the Republican Party most certainly counts as a domestic enemy. Pay more attention in civics class next time, okay? It's this sort of ignorance that led to Republicans holding office and power in this shape and fashion.