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I'm still on IRC. It is much quicker and it is much easier to be connected and active in multiple servers/channels, whereas the overview in Discord is terrible

I'm still on IRC. It is much quicker and it is much easier to be connected and active in multiple servers/channels, whereas the overview in Discord is terrible unless you use third party clients, which can get you banned from the service. The voice service isn't very high quality and there are frequent server outages. I use Telegram, Facebook, whatever except Discord for instant messaging, and wish Discord wasn't the default for non-professional groups. People my age (upper 20s) praising it are always those who used Skype for gaming and never touched Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble.

fastball 8y ago
I used Teamspeak and Ventrilo for gaming back in the day and much prefer Discord.
devonkim 8y ago
I was a user of all three of the gaming-centric chat / voice services and the issue always has been about centralizing different communities together rather than quality of service / technology itself. One group plays on a random guy’s Teamspeak server that’s been running in a VPS or colo for 6 years, another splinter group moved to Vent, etc. Then there were the fun times dealing with various authentication and rotating certificates (if you practiced decent security at all you had to have one) for each of these disparate communities. As gaming itself got broader reach a lot of casual folks were left to their own devices and underserved, so that’s the big gap being seen. I know plenty of 20-somethings that know about and used the predecessors to Discord but they’re all hardcore gamers compared to even the folks closer to mid/late 30s that may have been hardcore before but don’t have the time to fiddle with these systems anymore. It seems with Discord quality was tough to maintain at scale and we’ve got the inverse problem set.
bigbaguette 8y ago
Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble could get some inspiration from some ergonomics aspects of Discord. Quickly sharable unique urls for invitations for instance, instead of server:port-username-(password)
- gsich 8y ago
  Teamspeak has something like this.
- Evidlo 8y ago
  The mumble URI lets you embed a password: https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Password https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Passwo...
p0nce 8y ago
In on both Discord on IRC but like Discord better. Discord comes with multiple servers (not that easy in IRC, you must have a bouncer), formatting, logs, in an easy package and relatively "low" footpring when compared to the competition.
- Mirioron 8y ago
  IRC clients have had those features for at least 15-20 years now.
  - p0nce 8y ago
    No if you are not connected you loose the logs.
- qpery 8y ago
  Discord has low footprint? It's usually the application that consumes most RAM of my system (if we ignore the browser) and consumes an steady 1-2% of CPU even when in the systray. And it is, of course, closed source, so no way to use an alternative client. I wish I could use an IRC gateway for it, that would be cool (I very, very rarely use the voice chat)
  - tenryuu 8y ago
    >no way to use an alternative client These exist, but some are not open source. You can run discord on a vita if you wanted to. Just because something is closed source, doesn't mean it's impossible to reverse engineer. The entire system is compiled into a javascript webpack, alongside just reading web requests/their documentation, doing some basic functionality in an alternative implementation is really easy. This apparently breaks the terms of service, but they are only enforce this if you're an outlier for the number of API requests you send. The most well known 3rd party client would be Ripcord, which I use for it's Slack features
    - tapland 8y ago
      > but they are only enforce this if you're an outlier for the number of API requests you send This thing usually goes: Until the better client threatens the proprietary one with is better monetized.

fastball 8y ago

I used Teamspeak and Ventrilo for gaming back in the day and much prefer Discord.

devonkim 8y ago

I was a user of all three of the gaming-centric chat / voice services and the issue always has been about centralizing different communities together rather than quality of service / technology itself. One group plays on a random guy’s Teamspeak server that’s been running in a VPS or colo for 6 years, another splinter group moved to Vent, etc. Then there were the fun times dealing with various authentication and rotating certificates (if you practiced decent security at all you had to have one) for each of these disparate communities. As gaming itself got broader reach a lot of casual folks were left to their own devices and underserved, so that’s the big gap being seen. I know plenty of 20-somethings that know about and used the predecessors to Discord but they’re all hardcore gamers compared to even the folks closer to mid/late 30s that may have been hardcore before but don’t have the time to fiddle with these systems anymore. It seems with Discord quality was tough to maintain at scale and we’ve got the inverse problem set.

bigbaguette 8y ago

Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble could get some inspiration from some ergonomics aspects of Discord. Quickly sharable unique urls for invitations for instance, instead of server:port-username-(password)

gsich 8y ago
Teamspeak has something like this.
Evidlo 8y ago
The mumble URI lets you embed a password: https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Password https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Passwo...

p0nce 8y ago

In on both Discord on IRC but like Discord better. Discord comes with multiple servers (not that easy in IRC, you must have a bouncer), formatting, logs, in an easy package and relatively "low" footpring when compared to the competition.

Mirioron 8y ago
IRC clients have had those features for at least 15-20 years now.
- p0nce 8y ago
  No if you are not connected you loose the logs.
qpery 8y ago
Discord has low footprint? It's usually the application that consumes most RAM of my system (if we ignore the browser) and consumes an steady 1-2% of CPU even when in the systray. And it is, of course, closed source, so no way to use an alternative client. I wish I could use an IRC gateway for it, that would be cool (I very, very rarely use the voice chat)
- tenryuu 8y ago
  >no way to use an alternative client These exist, but some are not open source. You can run discord on a vita if you wanted to. Just because something is closed source, doesn't mean it's impossible to reverse engineer. The entire system is compiled into a javascript webpack, alongside just reading web requests/their documentation, doing some basic functionality in an alternative implementation is really easy. This apparently breaks the terms of service, but they are only enforce this if you're an outlier for the number of API requests you send. The most well known 3rd party client would be Ripcord, which I use for it's Slack features
  - tapland 8y ago
    > but they are only enforce this if you're an outlier for the number of API requests you send This thing usually goes: Until the better client threatens the proprietary one with is better monetized.