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I'm continuously impressed at the quality of the software coming from Discord. By far the best messaging user experience on desktop there is. Discord already u

I'm continuously impressed at the quality of the software coming from Discord. By far the best messaging user experience on desktop there is. Discord already uses Cloudflare, I'm curious what they think of Workers. edit: I'm on macOS, not an heavy user, I used Slack / Skype / Hangouts / WhatsApp / Messenger / etc. before

tomc1985 8y ago
Discord lets me pick sound output and input devices... Slack doesn't even do that! Never in the world would I have thought a gaming chat client had more robust features than the pricey enterprise chat client
- tenryuu 8y ago
  If you're on windows, the 'App Volume device preferences' settings pane has you covered It's the replacement for the vintage volume control, while a little sub-par by any modern standard, you can pick the input/output device per application
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qpery 8y ago
>By far the best messaging user experience on desktop there is. No offence but that's like your opinion. Coming from IRC and TeamSpeak, to me Discord is unnecessarily bloated and full of analytics. >I used Slack / Skype / Hangouts / WhatsApp / Messenger / etc. before Yeah, explains it. :P
- tapland 8y ago
  I'm still on IRC. It is much quicker and it is much easier to be connected and active in multiple servers/channels, whereas the overview in Discord is terrible unless you use third party clients, which can get you banned from the service. The voice service isn't very high quality and there are frequent server outages. I use Telegram, Facebook, whatever except Discord for instant messaging, and wish Discord wasn't the default for non-professional groups. People my age (upper 20s) praising it are always those who used Skype for gaming and never touched Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble.
  - fastball 8y ago
    I used Teamspeak and Ventrilo for gaming back in the day and much prefer Discord.
  - devonkim 8y ago
    I was a user of all three of the gaming-centric chat / voice services and the issue always has been about centralizing different communities together rather than quality of service / technology itself. One group plays on a random guy’s Teamspeak server that’s been running in a VPS or colo for 6 years, another splinter group moved to Vent, etc. Then there were the fun times dealing with various authentication and rotating certificates (if you practiced decent security at all you had to have one) for each of these disparate communities. As gaming itself got broader reach a lot of casual folks were left to their own devices and underserved, so that’s the big gap being seen. I know plenty of 20-somethings that know about and used the predecessors to Discord but they’re all hardcore gamers compared to even the folks closer to mid/late 30s that may have been hardcore before but don’t have the time to fiddle with these systems anymore. It seems with Discord quality was tough to maintain at scale and we’ve got the inverse problem set.
  - bigbaguette 8y ago
    Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble could get some inspiration from some ergonomics aspects of Discord. Quickly sharable unique urls for invitations for instance, instead of server:port-username-(password)
    - gsich 8y ago
      Teamspeak has something like this.
    - Evidlo 8y ago
      The mumble URI lets you embed a password: https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Password https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Passwo...
  - p0nce 8y ago
    In on both Discord on IRC but like Discord better. Discord comes with multiple servers (not that easy in IRC, you must have a bouncer), formatting, logs, in an easy package and relatively "low" footpring when compared to the competition.
- lmm 8y ago
  IRC lacks history (unless you have access to an always-on server, which you'll pay for one way or another) and has a userbase that is hostile to standardizing anything like user auth or rich-text formatting. I'll put up with a bit of "bloat" for the sake of not having to worry about where my bouncer is running.
  - qpery 8y ago
    No history is a feature. I like knowing that, like in real life, only people who are present can read what I'm saying.
    - lmm 8y ago
      That's not the case either though - many users have bouncers that will sit in the channel the whole time, and you have no idea who might be saving logs or where they might be publishing them. It's the worst of both worlds.
      - qpery 8y ago
        >many users have bouncers that will sit in the channel the whole time Then I know they're reading. >and you have no idea who might be saving logs or where they might be publishing them If I'm in a room with you nothing stops you from telling others what I've told you.
        lmm 8y ago
        > If I'm in a room with you nothing stops you from telling others what I've told you. Sure, but I won't have a complete written record like an IRC log, and won't be able to credibly quote.
        gsich 8y ago
        how would one credibly quote on IRC? Isn't the chat log enough for you?
cameronhowe 8y ago
I have the opposite experience. Frequent outages/voice connectivity degradation. Font rendering was broken on many linux distros for months. And now there has been some kind of crash for about a month and still ongoing where discord becomes sluggish and eventually closes over time. (If you have a game open it can crash within one hour) Not to mention where an update randomly the noise suppression would completely mute your mic.
rumblefrog 8y ago
Unfortunately I have the opposite experience - Abusive trust and safety team - Constant outages for both users and bots - Frontend is heavily bloated - UI designed for money grab instead for the users
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- qpery 8y ago
  By judging all the strings in the client frontend, their help website, and my interactions with the support team, Discord is being run by some rather immature people.
- metildaa 8y ago
  Don't forget the wierd dependency hell when it comes to writing Discord bots in Python. They require you use an older version of Python that is "fun" to work with.
  - jhgg 8y ago
    All the Diacord API libraries are community built and maintained.
  - tomc1985 8y ago
    Why do you have to use Python?
- busterarm 8y ago
  Discord's trust and safety team has come under fire lately for their (until a week ago) lax policy on "cub content" (for those unfamiliar, it's the furry equivalent of child porn). Apparently some of the people on the team may have been participants in sharing it; there are number of furries on that team (at least: Tinyfeex, Allthefoxes). While I appreciate their technical accomplishments, this is one of those things that gives me chills about the company.
- rumblefrog 8y ago
  As much as I want to support Discord, their goal from when they initially started as a company has shifted in an entirely new direction. I feel betrayed as a 2015 user.
snek 8y ago
I can definitely agree that Discord is a fantastic chat experience. I use both IRC and Discord, and I think Discord (if only slightly) takes the cake. Discord has actually been using workers since before they were available to the general public. They've been using them mainly for edge caching games for the store, A/B, and promotion of clients to different testing environments.
nikentic 8y ago
I fully agree, compared to other widely used software in the gaming space (Teamspeak, Mumble, Ventrilo). Experience to join new servers, create new content on existing one and chat+voice is amazing!
zinclozenge 8y ago
Having gone through some of their Elixir libraries, I concluded the opposite. They have some very inefficient and ugly code in a lot of places.
ziont 8y ago
wow...thats a first
gsich 8y ago
Not self-hostable.
jhgg 8y ago
>I'm curious what they think of Workers. We are a very heavy user of cloudflare workers. Our marketing/developer/web app are entirely served from the edge using workers - and we use workers for request authentication for downloading game chunks on our store.
- aboutruby 8y ago
  Thanks a lot, I should have googled it, I would have seen your previous comment mentioning it which has complementary information[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17447355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17447355

tomc1985 8y ago

Discord lets me pick sound output and input devices... Slack doesn't even do that! Never in the world would I have thought a gaming chat client had more robust features than the pricey enterprise chat client

tenryuu 8y ago
If you're on windows, the 'App Volume device preferences' settings pane has you covered It's the replacement for the vintage volume control, while a little sub-par by any modern standard, you can pick the input/output device per application

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qpery 8y ago

>By far the best messaging user experience on desktop there is. No offence but that's like your opinion. Coming from IRC and TeamSpeak, to me Discord is unnecessarily bloated and full of analytics. >I used Slack / Skype / Hangouts / WhatsApp / Messenger / etc. before Yeah, explains it. :P

tapland 8y ago
I'm still on IRC. It is much quicker and it is much easier to be connected and active in multiple servers/channels, whereas the overview in Discord is terrible unless you use third party clients, which can get you banned from the service. The voice service isn't very high quality and there are frequent server outages. I use Telegram, Facebook, whatever except Discord for instant messaging, and wish Discord wasn't the default for non-professional groups. People my age (upper 20s) praising it are always those who used Skype for gaming and never touched Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble.
- fastball 8y ago
  I used Teamspeak and Ventrilo for gaming back in the day and much prefer Discord.
- devonkim 8y ago
  I was a user of all three of the gaming-centric chat / voice services and the issue always has been about centralizing different communities together rather than quality of service / technology itself. One group plays on a random guy’s Teamspeak server that’s been running in a VPS or colo for 6 years, another splinter group moved to Vent, etc. Then there were the fun times dealing with various authentication and rotating certificates (if you practiced decent security at all you had to have one) for each of these disparate communities. As gaming itself got broader reach a lot of casual folks were left to their own devices and underserved, so that’s the big gap being seen. I know plenty of 20-somethings that know about and used the predecessors to Discord but they’re all hardcore gamers compared to even the folks closer to mid/late 30s that may have been hardcore before but don’t have the time to fiddle with these systems anymore. It seems with Discord quality was tough to maintain at scale and we’ve got the inverse problem set.
- bigbaguette 8y ago
  Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble could get some inspiration from some ergonomics aspects of Discord. Quickly sharable unique urls for invitations for instance, instead of server:port-username-(password)
  - gsich 8y ago
    Teamspeak has something like this.
  - Evidlo 8y ago
    The mumble URI lets you embed a password: https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Password https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumble_URL#Username_and_Passwo...
- p0nce 8y ago
  In on both Discord on IRC but like Discord better. Discord comes with multiple servers (not that easy in IRC, you must have a bouncer), formatting, logs, in an easy package and relatively "low" footpring when compared to the competition.
lmm 8y ago
IRC lacks history (unless you have access to an always-on server, which you'll pay for one way or another) and has a userbase that is hostile to standardizing anything like user auth or rich-text formatting. I'll put up with a bit of "bloat" for the sake of not having to worry about where my bouncer is running.
- qpery 8y ago
  No history is a feature. I like knowing that, like in real life, only people who are present can read what I'm saying.
  - lmm 8y ago
    That's not the case either though - many users have bouncers that will sit in the channel the whole time, and you have no idea who might be saving logs or where they might be publishing them. It's the worst of both worlds.
    - qpery 8y ago
      >many users have bouncers that will sit in the channel the whole time Then I know they're reading. >and you have no idea who might be saving logs or where they might be publishing them If I'm in a room with you nothing stops you from telling others what I've told you.
      - lmm 8y ago
        > If I'm in a room with you nothing stops you from telling others what I've told you. Sure, but I won't have a complete written record like an IRC log, and won't be able to credibly quote.
        gsich 8y ago
        how would one credibly quote on IRC? Isn't the chat log enough for you?

cameronhowe 8y ago

I have the opposite experience. Frequent outages/voice connectivity degradation. Font rendering was broken on many linux distros for months. And now there has been some kind of crash for about a month and still ongoing where discord becomes sluggish and eventually closes over time. (If you have a game open it can crash within one hour) Not to mention where an update randomly the noise suppression would completely mute your mic.

rumblefrog 8y ago

Unfortunately I have the opposite experience - Abusive trust and safety team - Constant outages for both users and bots - Frontend is heavily bloated - UI designed for money grab instead for the users

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qpery 8y ago
By judging all the strings in the client frontend, their help website, and my interactions with the support team, Discord is being run by some rather immature people.
metildaa 8y ago
Don't forget the wierd dependency hell when it comes to writing Discord bots in Python. They require you use an older version of Python that is "fun" to work with.
- jhgg 8y ago
  All the Diacord API libraries are community built and maintained.
- tomc1985 8y ago
  Why do you have to use Python?
busterarm 8y ago
Discord's trust and safety team has come under fire lately for their (until a week ago) lax policy on "cub content" (for those unfamiliar, it's the furry equivalent of child porn). Apparently some of the people on the team may have been participants in sharing it; there are number of furries on that team (at least: Tinyfeex, Allthefoxes). While I appreciate their technical accomplishments, this is one of those things that gives me chills about the company.
rumblefrog 8y ago
As much as I want to support Discord, their goal from when they initially started as a company has shifted in an entirely new direction. I feel betrayed as a 2015 user.

snek 8y ago

I can definitely agree that Discord is a fantastic chat experience. I use both IRC and Discord, and I think Discord (if only slightly) takes the cake. Discord has actually been using workers since before they were available to the general public. They've been using them mainly for edge caching games for the store, A/B, and promotion of clients to different testing environments.

nikentic 8y ago

I fully agree, compared to other widely used software in the gaming space (Teamspeak, Mumble, Ventrilo). Experience to join new servers, create new content on existing one and chat+voice is amazing!

zinclozenge 8y ago

Having gone through some of their Elixir libraries, I concluded the opposite. They have some very inefficient and ugly code in a lot of places.

ziont 8y ago

wow...thats a first

gsich 8y ago

Not self-hostable.

jhgg 8y ago

>I'm curious what they think of Workers. We are a very heavy user of cloudflare workers. Our marketing/developer/web app are entirely served from the edge using workers - and we use workers for request authentication for downloading game chunks on our store.

aboutruby 8y ago
Thanks a lot, I should have googled it, I would have seen your previous comment mentioning it which has complementary information[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17447355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17447355