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Your comment reads just as well without the condescending "It's almost like" at the beginning

coldtea 8y ago
Yeah, but the condescension was put in to counter-balance the parent's facile dismissal of the author/TFA. In other words, to add a cost (the possibility of being dismissed/sneered back) to such dismissals.
- house_atr 8y ago
  And yet the author is still making a dumb point with an even dumber example "polymorphism so hard me brain hurt aBstRaCtIoN bad"
- c22 8y ago
  This whole pointless sub-discussion has had a small cost for me because for some reason I bothered reading it. A simple downvote of the original comment could have provided feedback to the author while sparing the rest of us.
- afarrell 8y ago
  I think its better to give feedback explicitly rather than sneering. The latter just feels bad to read (even as a third party) but doesn't really espouse some better active social norms to follow. > to add a cost (the possibility of being dismissed/sneered back) to such dismissals. Given the fact that this is a conversation among strangers, I would assert that it isn't really that effective to just add costs by making discourse less pleasant. -- In general, I think a community is healthier when we treat people 25% better than you expect to be treated, to account for the Fundamental Attribution Error and other misinterpretations.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >I think its better to give feedback explicitly rather than sneering. The latter just feels bad to read (even as a third party) but doesn't really espouse some better active social norms to follow. I guess so. Sometimes I'm just pissed from the easy dismissal, as in "This 5 second basic retort is all you've came up with, and you think you've taken down TFA?".
    - afarrell 8y ago
      It's not an unreasonable thing to get ticked-off by
- dang 8y ago
  But please don't. Doing that adds a cost to the community, by toxifying it. Because of that, your pro-community intention is not only not fulfilled, it's actively damaged. I find facile dismissals irritating as well, and lord knows this site gets a lot of them. But the way to push back is with a clear, positive defense of whatever was unfairly dismissed. Venting doesn't help; it only invites more venting.

Yeah, but the condescension was put in to counter-balance the parent's facile dismissal of the author/TFA. In other words, to add a cost (the possibility of being dismissed/sneered back) to such dismissals.

house_atr 8y ago
And yet the author is still making a dumb point with an even dumber example "polymorphism so hard me brain hurt aBstRaCtIoN bad"
c22 8y ago
This whole pointless sub-discussion has had a small cost for me because for some reason I bothered reading it. A simple downvote of the original comment could have provided feedback to the author while sparing the rest of us.
afarrell 8y ago
I think its better to give feedback explicitly rather than sneering. The latter just feels bad to read (even as a third party) but doesn't really espouse some better active social norms to follow. > to add a cost (the possibility of being dismissed/sneered back) to such dismissals. Given the fact that this is a conversation among strangers, I would assert that it isn't really that effective to just add costs by making discourse less pleasant. -- In general, I think a community is healthier when we treat people 25% better than you expect to be treated, to account for the Fundamental Attribution Error and other misinterpretations.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >I think its better to give feedback explicitly rather than sneering. The latter just feels bad to read (even as a third party) but doesn't really espouse some better active social norms to follow. I guess so. Sometimes I'm just pissed from the easy dismissal, as in "This 5 second basic retort is all you've came up with, and you think you've taken down TFA?".
  - afarrell 8y ago
    It's not an unreasonable thing to get ticked-off by
dang 8y ago
But please don't. Doing that adds a cost to the community, by toxifying it. Because of that, your pro-community intention is not only not fulfilled, it's actively damaged. I find facile dismissals irritating as well, and lord knows this site gets a lot of them. But the way to push back is with a clear, positive defense of whatever was unfairly dismissed. Venting doesn't help; it only invites more venting.