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only in california. i paid 2.19/gallon last time I filled gas in midwest.

by FraaJad 8y ago

lallysingh 8y ago
That's still a whole lot more than the equivalent cost in electric for the same miles.
- syphilis2 8y ago
  When I do the math I find the cost per mile for electric is 80% the cost of gas. That's based off 35 mpg car, $2.20 gas, 60kWh electric battery with 238 miles of range, 10% loss in the charger, and $0.19 per kWh. All in all about $100-$200 saved a year. Cost of electric is higher than typical, but that's where I'm at.
eMSF 8y ago
Yeah, only in California. (Anything below 6 USD/gal is quite cheap here.)
- hollerith 8y ago
  Uh, I live in California, and all the signs I see here say $3.something for gas.
  - chipotle_coyote 8y ago
    I _suspect_ the person you're replying to doesn't live in the United States, given their conspicuous use of "USD". Even the most expensive gasoline in the US is dirt cheap compared to many countries across Europe. According to the somewhat amusingly named globalpetrolprices.com, gas prices in Germany were $5.62/gallon, the UK $5.75/gallon, and Finland $6.07 a gallon. Even in Russia, far and away the cheapest, gas was still $2.56 a gallon; of the countries they're tracking, only Russia and Ukraine would be cheaper than California. They also track prices across North America, and most countries here, including Canada and Mexico, are more expensive than California, too. I'm not entirely sure whether we have more highly subsidized gas prices than most of the developed world, lower gas taxes, or a bit of both, but our low prices—even in California—sure seem to be an anomaly. if we paid closer to the average first world price for gasoline, hybrids and electrics would suddenly get _way_ more attractive, and we might be a lot less keen on SUVs. (Back somewhat more on point for the linked article, I'd have considered a Chevy Volt if they were just a little closer to my price range. I drive enough—and occasionally in rural enough areas—that with the possible exception of Teslas, pure EVs are still a no-go for me, and Teslas are still out of my budget. And, frankly, I don't at all like the "shove everything possible onto one big touchscreen" approach to automotive UX design.)
    - B1FF_PSUVM 8y ago
      > lower gas taxes That. In Europe fuel taxes are easily half of the pump price.
  - jusssi 8y ago
    I believe the GP refers to the world outside North America. Converted to your units, yesterday's average for my region was $6.12/gal. Edit: the comment reply form could show other replies, I find myself dupeing a lot because I think I'm the first one to it, with the view of no replies 10 minutes ago.
    - masonic 8y ago
      There are 28 countries with cheaper gas than the USA per https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ (I don't know how well they account for taxes)

only in california. i paid 2.19/gallon last time I filled gas in midwest.

lallysingh 8y ago

That's still a whole lot more than the equivalent cost in electric for the same miles.

syphilis2 8y ago
When I do the math I find the cost per mile for electric is 80% the cost of gas. That's based off 35 mpg car, $2.20 gas, 60kWh electric battery with 238 miles of range, 10% loss in the charger, and $0.19 per kWh. All in all about $100-$200 saved a year. Cost of electric is higher than typical, but that's where I'm at.

eMSF 8y ago

Yeah, only in California. (Anything below 6 USD/gal is quite cheap here.)

hollerith 8y ago
Uh, I live in California, and all the signs I see here say $3.something for gas.
- chipotle_coyote 8y ago
  I _suspect_ the person you're replying to doesn't live in the United States, given their conspicuous use of "USD". Even the most expensive gasoline in the US is dirt cheap compared to many countries across Europe. According to the somewhat amusingly named globalpetrolprices.com, gas prices in Germany were $5.62/gallon, the UK $5.75/gallon, and Finland $6.07 a gallon. Even in Russia, far and away the cheapest, gas was still $2.56 a gallon; of the countries they're tracking, only Russia and Ukraine would be cheaper than California. They also track prices across North America, and most countries here, including Canada and Mexico, are more expensive than California, too. I'm not entirely sure whether we have more highly subsidized gas prices than most of the developed world, lower gas taxes, or a bit of both, but our low prices—even in California—sure seem to be an anomaly. if we paid closer to the average first world price for gasoline, hybrids and electrics would suddenly get _way_ more attractive, and we might be a lot less keen on SUVs. (Back somewhat more on point for the linked article, I'd have considered a Chevy Volt if they were just a little closer to my price range. I drive enough—and occasionally in rural enough areas—that with the possible exception of Teslas, pure EVs are still a no-go for me, and Teslas are still out of my budget. And, frankly, I don't at all like the "shove everything possible onto one big touchscreen" approach to automotive UX design.)
  - B1FF_PSUVM 8y ago
    > lower gas taxes That. In Europe fuel taxes are easily half of the pump price.
- jusssi 8y ago
  I believe the GP refers to the world outside North America. Converted to your units, yesterday's average for my region was $6.12/gal. Edit: the comment reply form could show other replies, I find myself dupeing a lot because I think I'm the first one to it, with the view of no replies 10 minutes ago.
  - masonic 8y ago
    There are 28 countries with cheaper gas than the USA per https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ (I don't know how well they account for taxes)