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EDIT 2: Let me re-phrase my comment as follows — I highly recommend you explore a therapeutic diet such as carnivore which has helped many people heal issues su

EDIT 2: Let me re-phrase my comment as follows — I highly recommend you explore a therapeutic diet such as carnivore which has helped many people heal issues such as Crohn’s. Here’s an updated link worth exploring — http://meatheals.com/category/crohns-disease/ http://meatheals.com/category/crohns-disease/ EDIT: wording

DoreenMichele 8y ago
I highly recommend you try out a therapeutic diet such as carnivore which has helped many people heal issues such as Crohn’s. Please don't make medical "recommendations" of any kind at all on the internet -- even if you are a doctor. It is a really, really bad practice that doesn't work at all and actively interferes with reasoned and serious discussion by people who are directly impacted by such conditions and in dire need of the ability to have meaty discussions about life, the universe and everything as it relates to their condition. Signed: Someone with a serious condition. Thank you.
- sbenitoj 8y ago
  Who said I made a medical recommendation? Do you feel it’s a scientific approach to NOT test out something before concluding it doesn’t work? I’m not a doctor and don’t play one on the Internet but everyone can think and test out things for themselves. A mostly carnivore diet is low risk to say the least considering that’s how almost all humans ate for thousands of years, the modern food supply and diet is what’s radical.
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  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    Who said I made a medical recommendation? You previously said -- and I already quoted it, above: I highly recommend you try out a therapeutic diet That's what I'm talking about right there. That right there is a medical recommendation.
    - sbenitoj 8y ago
      I think we’re splitting hairs here, but words matters, so I went ahead and changed the wording to make it clear what I’m saying. My whole point is that modern diets are broken, lots of people are healing autoimmune conditions with therapeutic diets such as carnivory (or if you want a less strict but IMO less therapeutic autoimmune diet you can check out the autoimmune protocol — see Sarah Ballantyne’s The Paleo Approach).
      - DoreenMichele 8y ago
        You are still saying you "highly recommend." This is the thing I am objecting to. The OP in no way asked for alternative remedies. They asked for info on how one might adequately access conventional treatment if they moved to the US, without breaking the bank. It is inappropriate in that context to "recommend" alternative remedies at all for any reason. A better approach -- if you absolutely feel compelled to butt into someone else's life and just cannot restrain yourself -- is to ask if they would be interested in alternative treatments and any hard data or good info you might have about such approaches. And if they don't say "yes," drop it rather than arguing endlessly with all comers about your right to promote a carnivore diet as some kind of cure-all for autoimmune disorders. As stated previously: I have a serious condition. I happen to manage it with diet and lifestyle, which gets me called a nutter and given all kinds of headaches. Remarks and behavior of the sort your comments are engaging in are a huge headache for me because it is part of why I am treated so shittily when I want to try to have a reasoned discussion about such topics. I would never pursue a carnivore diet. I generally eat less meat than the typical American. My current dietary approach is basically working miracles.
        sbenitoj 8y ago
        I disagree with your approach, most people are too stuck in the paradigm of conventional medicine to even realize there's another alternative to managing (or even healing) their condition, so it's not surprise people don't ask. They can take or leave my recommendations, everyone's in charge of their own mind. Why would you never pursue a carnivore diet?
tapland 8y ago
Eating to avoid symptoms is very common and very much recommended. Thing is, it doesn't stop the illness itself. You are confusing eating things (like meats, also no fibers etc) that are known to not cause bowel issues in people with crohn's disease, with curing the illness. Being on that diet does little to reverse the illness and it's effect on the digestive tract other than the proccessing in the intestine and down. And what's the point of calling it a treatment if you can never revert to normal? I asked how much insurance was. If I wanted woo-science shoved down my throat I would return home to my parents.

DoreenMichele 8y ago

I highly recommend you try out a therapeutic diet such as carnivore which has helped many people heal issues such as Crohn’s. Please don't make medical "recommendations" of any kind at all on the internet -- even if you are a doctor. It is a really, really bad practice that doesn't work at all and actively interferes with reasoned and serious discussion by people who are directly impacted by such conditions and in dire need of the ability to have meaty discussions about life, the universe and everything as it relates to their condition. Signed: Someone with a serious condition. Thank you.

sbenitoj 8y ago
Who said I made a medical recommendation? Do you feel it’s a scientific approach to NOT test out something before concluding it doesn’t work? I’m not a doctor and don’t play one on the Internet but everyone can think and test out things for themselves. A mostly carnivore diet is low risk to say the least considering that’s how almost all humans ate for thousands of years, the modern food supply and diet is what’s radical.
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- DoreenMichele 8y ago
  Who said I made a medical recommendation? You previously said -- and I already quoted it, above: I highly recommend you try out a therapeutic diet That's what I'm talking about right there. That right there is a medical recommendation.
  - sbenitoj 8y ago
    I think we’re splitting hairs here, but words matters, so I went ahead and changed the wording to make it clear what I’m saying. My whole point is that modern diets are broken, lots of people are healing autoimmune conditions with therapeutic diets such as carnivory (or if you want a less strict but IMO less therapeutic autoimmune diet you can check out the autoimmune protocol — see Sarah Ballantyne’s The Paleo Approach).
    - DoreenMichele 8y ago
      You are still saying you "highly recommend." This is the thing I am objecting to. The OP in no way asked for alternative remedies. They asked for info on how one might adequately access conventional treatment if they moved to the US, without breaking the bank. It is inappropriate in that context to "recommend" alternative remedies at all for any reason. A better approach -- if you absolutely feel compelled to butt into someone else's life and just cannot restrain yourself -- is to ask if they would be interested in alternative treatments and any hard data or good info you might have about such approaches. And if they don't say "yes," drop it rather than arguing endlessly with all comers about your right to promote a carnivore diet as some kind of cure-all for autoimmune disorders. As stated previously: I have a serious condition. I happen to manage it with diet and lifestyle, which gets me called a nutter and given all kinds of headaches. Remarks and behavior of the sort your comments are engaging in are a huge headache for me because it is part of why I am treated so shittily when I want to try to have a reasoned discussion about such topics. I would never pursue a carnivore diet. I generally eat less meat than the typical American. My current dietary approach is basically working miracles.
      - sbenitoj 8y ago
        I disagree with your approach, most people are too stuck in the paradigm of conventional medicine to even realize there's another alternative to managing (or even healing) their condition, so it's not surprise people don't ask. They can take or leave my recommendations, everyone's in charge of their own mind. Why would you never pursue a carnivore diet?

tapland 8y ago

Eating to avoid symptoms is very common and very much recommended. Thing is, it doesn't stop the illness itself. You are confusing eating things (like meats, also no fibers etc) that are known to not cause bowel issues in people with crohn's disease, with curing the illness. Being on that diet does little to reverse the illness and it's effect on the digestive tract other than the proccessing in the intestine and down. And what's the point of calling it a treatment if you can never revert to normal? I asked how much insurance was. If I wanted woo-science shoved down my throat I would return home to my parents.