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I still find it very difficult to trust Bloomberg after “The Big Hack” was widely refuted without a retraction. Now whenever I read a Bloomberg puff peice like

by jitl 8y ago

I still find it very difficult to trust Bloomberg after “The Big Hack” was widely refuted without a retraction. Now whenever I read a Bloomberg puff peice like this, I’m wondering who’s agenda they’re serving. Who’s got all the Recruit stock that wants to see it rise? How much of the article is twisted to paint this company in a positive light? They’re not a trustworthy publication anymore.

stevensawtelle 8y ago
I was just thinking about that article the other day - do we know that a retraction was needed? I saw all the refutation but never saw Bloomberg back down, and honestly I'm not sure how these things normally work. I guess I'm just wondering why you're so confident Bloomberg was serving an agenda?
segmondy 8y ago
Hey, folks thought Echelon was a joke in the 90's until Snowden showed that Echelon is child's play. The Big Hack might be true or not, but it's not far fetched. There might be more at play here. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As&feature=youtu.be
- saagarjha 8y ago
  The issue is that Bloomberg couldn’t provide any real evidence for their claims when pressed.
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    That's standard practice for media these days. One recalls the dozens of breathlessly reported then forgotten inside of a week "inside leaks" about "Russian collusion".
- fungi 8y ago
  Few are denying that the Chinese Government spys, vacuums up as much data as possible and generally should not be trusted. But the specific allegations raised in the "The Big Hack" appear to be without basis. In my mind it looks more like "Weapons of Mass Destruction" BS that once saturated the media.
- ekianjo 8y ago
  > The Big Hack might be true or not So where is even the evidence that it might be true? Bloomberg did a fluff piece without any data or evidence to support their claims. And worse than anything, they kept their story alive despite all the suspicion raised by other companies. That's pretty bad for a journalistic body. > folks thought Echelon was a joke I'm not sure what sources you refer to, but most people at the time thought that something like Echelon was true in some form or another. The main thing that Snowden did is to show evidence of wrongdoing, the extent of the data collection scope, and the complicity of numerous high profile companies.
DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
I guess to avoid having such a huge scandal[1] again, it makes sense to preempt any negative spin by admitting that they had problems, and putting focus on how they turned it around instead. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruit_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruit_scandal

by jitl 8y ago

stevensawtelle 8y ago

I was just thinking about that article the other day - do we know that a retraction was needed? I saw all the refutation but never saw Bloomberg back down, and honestly I'm not sure how these things normally work. I guess I'm just wondering why you're so confident Bloomberg was serving an agenda?

segmondy 8y ago

Hey, folks thought Echelon was a joke in the 90's until Snowden showed that Echelon is child's play. The Big Hack might be true or not, but it's not far fetched. There might be more at play here. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As&feature=youtu.be

saagarjha 8y ago
The issue is that Bloomberg couldn’t provide any real evidence for their claims when pressed.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  That's standard practice for media these days. One recalls the dozens of breathlessly reported then forgotten inside of a week "inside leaks" about "Russian collusion".
fungi 8y ago
Few are denying that the Chinese Government spys, vacuums up as much data as possible and generally should not be trusted. But the specific allegations raised in the "The Big Hack" appear to be without basis. In my mind it looks more like "Weapons of Mass Destruction" BS that once saturated the media.
ekianjo 8y ago
> The Big Hack might be true or not So where is even the evidence that it might be true? Bloomberg did a fluff piece without any data or evidence to support their claims. And worse than anything, they kept their story alive despite all the suspicion raised by other companies. That's pretty bad for a journalistic body. > folks thought Echelon was a joke I'm not sure what sources you refer to, but most people at the time thought that something like Echelon was true in some form or another. The main thing that Snowden did is to show evidence of wrongdoing, the extent of the data collection scope, and the complicity of numerous high profile companies.

DyslexicAtheist 8y ago

I guess to avoid having such a huge scandal[1] again, it makes sense to preempt any negative spin by admitting that they had problems, and putting focus on how they turned it around instead. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruit_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruit_scandal