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When was the last time you stayed in a "third world" country?

malvosenior 8y ago
About ten years ago and I have relatives that live in one. The examples I gave come from personal experience or that of people I know.
- blocked_again 8y ago
  > third world you have to regularly bribe police, Been living in India for more than 2 decades. Never had to bribe the police once. > hope no one visits your family in the middle of the night, Funny you mentioned that. USA has worse criminal violence than most countries in the world. Gun violence is entirely a US phenomena. > don't have access to clean food or water. Never faced the issue of clean food or drinking water in my entire life. And I am from lower middle class. > Even life at the lowest rungs of US culture have it way better than most in a third world country Really? I prefer to live in a country where I can afford healthcare atleast. Probably a great idea to visit some so called "third world" countries and see for yoursevles. If you dont have time for that read Fact-fullness.
  - rosterface 8y ago
    India is number 2 on this list, the US is 14: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violen... You haven't had issue with clean water? I'd say you're pretty lucky then: https://water.org/our-impact/india/ https://water.org/our-impact/india/
    - blocked_again 8y ago
      > India is number 2 on this list, the US is 14: Thats the total number of violence. Divide it by population and US will became worse than India.
      - rosterface 8y ago
        Incorrect. It's per capita. From the article: "Intentional homicide, number and rate per 100,000 population."
        blocked_again 8y ago
        Nope. It shows totals by default. Click on per capita to show the per capita rate. India is at 107 and US is at 99. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violen...
  - addicted 8y ago
    You have to look at Per Capita. India is a far more populous country than the US. And guess what. The US is at 99 and India is at 107 which reinforces the idea that the US has developing country outcomes in certain areas. It’s not the worst (there are 98 worse countries), but it’s signficanrly worse than its wealth should indicate it should be.
  - theredbox 8y ago
    I have lived in Europe earning an above average salary for a swe and never saved enough to really feel I made it in life. The healthcare was just good enough, almost mediocre and living there felt like all in all just "good enough". I moved to Asia, to a country with much lower taxes and live a much better life.
  - close04 8y ago
    Don't get me wrong but you're one person in ~1.4bn (!). I'm pretty sure your experience isn't applicable to most of the population. Judging by the first statement, one that's contradicted by basically all statistics and most citizens, I'd say your experience may very well be a statistical fluke. [0] And related to water, we may have different standards for cleanliness. But when the whole world agrees that most of the water is not fit for consumption you have to wonder. [1] Anecdata. I went with a friend to a wedding in India. And while we were warned to only drink from water bottles that we unseal ourselves (we even received refilled bottles of water in the Hilton hotel we were living in), my friend did not account for the ice cubes in his drinks. The outcome wasn't pretty. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_India [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution_in_India
    - blocked_again 8y ago
      Yes. The issue was that the OP used this phrase which is a great exaggeration > Even life at the lowest rungs of US culture have it way better than most in a third world country I agree that some portion of my country is living in bad conditions. But majority are not and nobody is going to trade their spot for the lowest rungs of US culture. Don't get me wrong. I have been to US as well. I would probably trade my place with a person living in a good neighbourhoodn with his own house in California if I was offered Greencard and a job with good salary. But lowest rungs of US culture? Defintely not.

About ten years ago and I have relatives that live in one. The examples I gave come from personal experience or that of people I know.

blocked_again 8y ago
> third world you have to regularly bribe police, Been living in India for more than 2 decades. Never had to bribe the police once. > hope no one visits your family in the middle of the night, Funny you mentioned that. USA has worse criminal violence than most countries in the world. Gun violence is entirely a US phenomena. > don't have access to clean food or water. Never faced the issue of clean food or drinking water in my entire life. And I am from lower middle class. > Even life at the lowest rungs of US culture have it way better than most in a third world country Really? I prefer to live in a country where I can afford healthcare atleast. Probably a great idea to visit some so called "third world" countries and see for yoursevles. If you dont have time for that read Fact-fullness.
- rosterface 8y ago
  India is number 2 on this list, the US is 14: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violen... You haven't had issue with clean water? I'd say you're pretty lucky then: https://water.org/our-impact/india/ https://water.org/our-impact/india/
  - blocked_again 8y ago
    > India is number 2 on this list, the US is 14: Thats the total number of violence. Divide it by population and US will became worse than India.
    - rosterface 8y ago
      Incorrect. It's per capita. From the article: "Intentional homicide, number and rate per 100,000 population."
      - blocked_again 8y ago
        Nope. It shows totals by default. Click on per capita to show the per capita rate. India is at 107 and US is at 99. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violen...
- addicted 8y ago
  You have to look at Per Capita. India is a far more populous country than the US. And guess what. The US is at 99 and India is at 107 which reinforces the idea that the US has developing country outcomes in certain areas. It’s not the worst (there are 98 worse countries), but it’s signficanrly worse than its wealth should indicate it should be.
- theredbox 8y ago
  I have lived in Europe earning an above average salary for a swe and never saved enough to really feel I made it in life. The healthcare was just good enough, almost mediocre and living there felt like all in all just "good enough". I moved to Asia, to a country with much lower taxes and live a much better life.
- close04 8y ago
  Don't get me wrong but you're one person in ~1.4bn (!). I'm pretty sure your experience isn't applicable to most of the population. Judging by the first statement, one that's contradicted by basically all statistics and most citizens, I'd say your experience may very well be a statistical fluke. [0] And related to water, we may have different standards for cleanliness. But when the whole world agrees that most of the water is not fit for consumption you have to wonder. [1] Anecdata. I went with a friend to a wedding in India. And while we were warned to only drink from water bottles that we unseal ourselves (we even received refilled bottles of water in the Hilton hotel we were living in), my friend did not account for the ice cubes in his drinks. The outcome wasn't pretty. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_India [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution_in_India
  - blocked_again 8y ago
    Yes. The issue was that the OP used this phrase which is a great exaggeration > Even life at the lowest rungs of US culture have it way better than most in a third world country I agree that some portion of my country is living in bad conditions. But majority are not and nobody is going to trade their spot for the lowest rungs of US culture. Don't get me wrong. I have been to US as well. I would probably trade my place with a person living in a good neighbourhoodn with his own house in California if I was offered Greencard and a job with good salary. But lowest rungs of US culture? Defintely not.