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I don't think of it as a selfie... It looks more like he wanted to take a photograph of the "elephant's foot", and considering that the only available light was

by geuszb 8y ago

I don't think of it as a selfie... It looks more like he wanted to take a photograph of the "elephant's foot", and considering that the only available light was his flashlight, had to do a long take while he trained the flashlight onto various parts of the piece, trying to illuminate it evenly. If he'd wanted to pose next to it and be recognizable, he would have shone the light onto his face while standing still for a few seconds too

dingaling 8y ago
> while he trained the flashlight onto various parts of the piece In photography that's a technique called 'light painting'. Usually done deliberately but I had to resort to it once on a shoot when the flash units wouldn't fire; I borrowed a bicycle headlight.
mirimir 8y ago
You could call it a "self-timed photo". But "selfie" is the current slang, and a lot shorter. It's the same concept as taking a family photo including yourself. Illumination of the "elephant's foot" seems to mainly come from just left of the camera, given its shadow on the background. So he probably stood there for a while, panning over it with his flashlight. And then he walked over, and stood next to it. But he was a little careless with the flashlight, and hit the camera some. Also, the right side of the "elephant's foot" does seem to be flaming.
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- Swizec 8y ago
  I beg to differ. A selfie is specifically a photograph taken from the hand pointed at yourself. Using a timer makes it not a selfie in my book.
  - wataruspeedo 8y ago
    What about drone selfies? That's definitely a term, and it breaks your criteria. Could we call this a timed tripod selfie? I propose that photographer must a) be the primary subject of the photo, b) be engaged with the camera in some way, in order to categorize as a selfie. So yeah, pretty sure this isn't a selfie. Also this makes me want to play the new Metro.
    - timers 8y ago
      Is there a drone involved in this photo? No. No, there isn’t. Timers and remotes predate the concept of the frivolous selfie, which rarely involves careful attention to the manner of exposure for the light-sensitive film, which places physical expense constraints on the photographic techniques of the era. So, again. This is not a selfie that was taken, and then retaken, until the self portrait depicted the photographer in a flattering manner. There’s no attention grasping identity to the photo. The subject is not pandering to their own ego. So, it’s not a selfie in terms of technique, and it’s not a selfie in the spirit of the word. So it is not a selfie. At all. Period.
    - mirimir 8y ago
      Well, he did put himself in the photo, which wasn't at all necessary for documentation. And doing so arguably increased his radiation exposure. So I think that "selfie" fits.
      - Siemer 8y ago
        It does not. The amount of risk involved is not a factor. The term "selfie" refers to the inherent narcissism of the focus of the shot. In a traditional selfie, when you move, your arm moves with you and your self remains the center focus of the shot. A drone selfie acts in a similar way. A timed shot on the other hand will always capture a specific scene, whether you are in it or not. Arguably Eschers lithograph "Hand with Reflecting Sphere" does qualify, but Korneyevs picture doesn't.

by geuszb 8y ago

dingaling 8y ago

> while he trained the flashlight onto various parts of the piece In photography that's a technique called 'light painting'. Usually done deliberately but I had to resort to it once on a shoot when the flash units wouldn't fire; I borrowed a bicycle headlight.

mirimir 8y ago

You could call it a "self-timed photo". But "selfie" is the current slang, and a lot shorter. It's the same concept as taking a family photo including yourself. Illumination of the "elephant's foot" seems to mainly come from just left of the camera, given its shadow on the background. So he probably stood there for a while, panning over it with his flashlight. And then he walked over, and stood next to it. But he was a little careless with the flashlight, and hit the camera some. Also, the right side of the "elephant's foot" does seem to be flaming.

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Swizec 8y ago
I beg to differ. A selfie is specifically a photograph taken from the hand pointed at yourself. Using a timer makes it not a selfie in my book.
- wataruspeedo 8y ago
  What about drone selfies? That's definitely a term, and it breaks your criteria. Could we call this a timed tripod selfie? I propose that photographer must a) be the primary subject of the photo, b) be engaged with the camera in some way, in order to categorize as a selfie. So yeah, pretty sure this isn't a selfie. Also this makes me want to play the new Metro.
  - timers 8y ago
    Is there a drone involved in this photo? No. No, there isn’t. Timers and remotes predate the concept of the frivolous selfie, which rarely involves careful attention to the manner of exposure for the light-sensitive film, which places physical expense constraints on the photographic techniques of the era. So, again. This is not a selfie that was taken, and then retaken, until the self portrait depicted the photographer in a flattering manner. There’s no attention grasping identity to the photo. The subject is not pandering to their own ego. So, it’s not a selfie in terms of technique, and it’s not a selfie in the spirit of the word. So it is not a selfie. At all. Period.
  - mirimir 8y ago
    Well, he did put himself in the photo, which wasn't at all necessary for documentation. And doing so arguably increased his radiation exposure. So I think that "selfie" fits.
    - Siemer 8y ago
      It does not. The amount of risk involved is not a factor. The term "selfie" refers to the inherent narcissism of the focus of the shot. In a traditional selfie, when you move, your arm moves with you and your self remains the center focus of the shot. A drone selfie acts in a similar way. A timed shot on the other hand will always capture a specific scene, whether you are in it or not. Arguably Eschers lithograph "Hand with Reflecting Sphere" does qualify, but Korneyevs picture doesn't.