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> The systems that so obsess western writers seem to have absolutely no effect on Chinese society... Then why pursue them? Why back leaders that do useless thi

> The systems that so obsess western writers seem to have absolutely no effect on Chinese society... Then why pursue them? Why back leaders that do useless things? At some point along this line of though, you have to admit that your leaders aren't working in the interest of the great majority of citizens if what they're doing is not effective and if they don't step aside because of that... > The concerns are warranted, but the interest approaches zero in the culture here. Sounds like the same kind of apathy that westerners react to many serious topics with. I think we have a lot more in common than not. Your leaders sound just like ours and so does your average persons reaction to their policies.

luckylion 8y ago
> At some point along this line of though, you have to admit that your leaders aren't working in the interest of the great majority of citizens if what they're doing is not effective and if they don't step aside because of that... tbh seeing how there actually IS a middle class in china now, and it's in the hundreds of millions now and is growing, it's hard to argue that it's not "effective" for "the great majority". That's quite an accomplishment.