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Not equal apparently : https://youtu.be/mICxKmCjF-4 https://youtu.be/mICxKmCjF-4

leesalminen 8y ago
A title of “Admit it. The Republicans have broken politics” and being published by Vox fills me with confidence that this will be an unbiased report based solely in fact. Definitely. This is clearly an opinion and not news nor fact. The real fact is that Republicans are American, just like Democrats. We are all responsible for breaking our country. Every. Single. One. Of. Us.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  Republicans and Democrats most of all. If voters would stop voting for them, we'd have better people in office.
  - r00fus 8y ago
    We have a first past the post plurality voting system. In this system the stable state is 2 parties. Any more create a spoiler effect [1]. Fix that and 3rd parties would bloom. Any wishing for 3rd party+ saving the people without a change to the rules is fantasy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect
  - leesalminen 8y ago
    This is the most rational thing I’ve read on this thread. Agree 1000%.
- close04 8y ago
  > We are all responsible for breaking our country. Every. Single. One. Of. Us. That's not how it works. Unless all Americans are responsible for an American barn catching fire because the American owner tossed an American cigarette butt inside. No, politics get ruined by politicians. And politicians are put there by some of the people. Not all of the people. I know you'd like to lessen the burden on your shoulders and try to spread the blame also towards the people who voted against them. But if you voted for the current crop of politicians ruling your country you (and all others casting the same vote) are directly responsible for the state it's in. Being ashamed of that and diverting the blame just implies you accept you voted for the wrong people.
  - leesalminen 8y ago
    So what you’re saying is that all problems in our country are caused by the current administration and that democrats have never done anything detrimental to the country? It would seem to me that you’re the one assigning blame away from yourself. I blame all of us equally for allowing us to get to where we are today. I’m equally unimpressed with this administration as the last.
    - close04 8y ago
      No, I'm saying that every issue caused by the current administration has its voters at the root of it. Not all voters. And you have to admit that the heavy-handed way the current administration had been conducting its business is a new low. Or at least a local minimum.
    - whataboutthateh 8y ago
      Your repeated comments here can be best summarized as "but but but what about...." Your whataboutism is just simple intellectual dishonesty. Do you have an actual argument to make here? If not, save us all some reading and just type "BWA" or something and it will have the same persuasive effect as anything else you've written here.

A title of “Admit it. The Republicans have broken politics” and being published by Vox fills me with confidence that this will be an unbiased report based solely in fact. Definitely. This is clearly an opinion and not news nor fact. The real fact is that Republicans are American, just like Democrats. We are all responsible for breaking our country. Every. Single. One. Of. Us.

jessaustin 8y ago
Republicans and Democrats most of all. If voters would stop voting for them, we'd have better people in office.
- r00fus 8y ago
  We have a first past the post plurality voting system. In this system the stable state is 2 parties. Any more create a spoiler effect [1]. Fix that and 3rd parties would bloom. Any wishing for 3rd party+ saving the people without a change to the rules is fantasy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect
- leesalminen 8y ago
  This is the most rational thing I’ve read on this thread. Agree 1000%.
close04 8y ago
> We are all responsible for breaking our country. Every. Single. One. Of. Us. That's not how it works. Unless all Americans are responsible for an American barn catching fire because the American owner tossed an American cigarette butt inside. No, politics get ruined by politicians. And politicians are put there by some of the people. Not all of the people. I know you'd like to lessen the burden on your shoulders and try to spread the blame also towards the people who voted against them. But if you voted for the current crop of politicians ruling your country you (and all others casting the same vote) are directly responsible for the state it's in. Being ashamed of that and diverting the blame just implies you accept you voted for the wrong people.
- leesalminen 8y ago
  So what you’re saying is that all problems in our country are caused by the current administration and that democrats have never done anything detrimental to the country? It would seem to me that you’re the one assigning blame away from yourself. I blame all of us equally for allowing us to get to where we are today. I’m equally unimpressed with this administration as the last.
  - close04 8y ago
    No, I'm saying that every issue caused by the current administration has its voters at the root of it. Not all voters. And you have to admit that the heavy-handed way the current administration had been conducting its business is a new low. Or at least a local minimum.
  - whataboutthateh 8y ago
    Your repeated comments here can be best summarized as "but but but what about...." Your whataboutism is just simple intellectual dishonesty. Do you have an actual argument to make here? If not, save us all some reading and just type "BWA" or something and it will have the same persuasive effect as anything else you've written here.