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> these people are just too dumb, selfish, or gullible to believe them This argument has convinced people exactly never. It's amazing how much name calling is

> these people are just too dumb, selfish, or gullible to believe them This argument has convinced people exactly never. It's amazing how much name calling is on this thread and how few links to research. Want people to listen? Show them compassion. Want people to vaccinate? Give them great information from trusted sources. Want people to dismiss you? Call them names. If we want to increase adoption, then please silence yourself on this subject as you're doing more harm than good.

daeken 8y ago
I frankly don't care to try to convince anti-vaxxers. You can't logic someone out of a strongly held belief that they didn't logic themselves into. If someone can seriously look at the breadth and depth of information on the subject -- available with even the most cursory search on the subject -- then they're lost. I think these people are child abusers and should absolutely be shamed.
- everdev 8y ago
  I think you'd be surprised at how not strong their opinions are when you treat them like humans instead of shaming them like child abusers. It sounds like there's a lot of hurt and anger around this subject. Hopefully cooler heads can prevail at some point as I think our health is more important than name calling or putting people we haven't met in big negative buckets.
- existentialhalt 8y ago
  I was vaccine injured and it destroyed my life. I battled physically crippling pain and brain damage for over a decade. I arrived at this conclusion after studying biochemistry for over a decade. You think your "cursory" search is adequate to evaluate this problem? You think you can quickly Google complex problems and completely figure them out? That's weird. You seem to be the illogical superficial one. I used to be a professional environmental engineer. There are real logical concerns with vaccines. Hardly any one will even listen to my logic, because most people are like you, who think it's logical to ignore logical arguments because you don't like it. Pathetic. You're full of hate based on a "cursory" Google search.
  - dang 8y ago
    Crossing into incivility will get you banned here. Please follow the site guidelines when posting to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

daeken 8y ago

I frankly don't care to try to convince anti-vaxxers. You can't logic someone out of a strongly held belief that they didn't logic themselves into. If someone can seriously look at the breadth and depth of information on the subject -- available with even the most cursory search on the subject -- then they're lost. I think these people are child abusers and should absolutely be shamed.

everdev 8y ago
I think you'd be surprised at how not strong their opinions are when you treat them like humans instead of shaming them like child abusers. It sounds like there's a lot of hurt and anger around this subject. Hopefully cooler heads can prevail at some point as I think our health is more important than name calling or putting people we haven't met in big negative buckets.
existentialhalt 8y ago
I was vaccine injured and it destroyed my life. I battled physically crippling pain and brain damage for over a decade. I arrived at this conclusion after studying biochemistry for over a decade. You think your "cursory" search is adequate to evaluate this problem? You think you can quickly Google complex problems and completely figure them out? That's weird. You seem to be the illogical superficial one. I used to be a professional environmental engineer. There are real logical concerns with vaccines. Hardly any one will even listen to my logic, because most people are like you, who think it's logical to ignore logical arguments because you don't like it. Pathetic. You're full of hate based on a "cursory" Google search.
- dang 8y ago
  Crossing into incivility will get you banned here. Please follow the site guidelines when posting to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html