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It is not just you; it is a terrible name. The word "Labor" itself has negative connotations due to human history and suffering from extortion. Using it in a co

It is not just you; it is a terrible name. The word "Labor" itself has negative connotations due to human history and suffering from extortion. Using it in a completely novel, unproven and radical context worsens the situation. "Furthermore, graduates agree to work for us directly if our offer is as good as their other employment offers." - So you're tied to whatever job/management/role you're offered unless you can score a better offer. This seems very suspicious and concerning.

asd33313131 8y ago
There's no penalty if they don't take our offer. We are likely going to remove this clause. Interestingly, virtually everyone who applies (> 98%) is fine with this.
- chipperyman573 8y ago
  >Interestingly, virtually everyone who applies (> 98%) is fine with this. How was this measured?
  - asd33313131 8y ago
    Everyone who fills out the application answers this question. It's a little harder to do this test now (because of selection bias) but in the recent past when we were advertising the program we wouldn't tell people about the staffing bit until the application. There's probably some attrition there (i.e. people who don't like the staffing bit maybe would just not complete the application). But, interesting, people would answer "no" to other questions that would disqualify them (like right to work in US, or about the income share agreement terms) and would still complete the application. This makes us believe people were answering honestly and not just dropping off at the staffing question.
zanny 8y ago
Labor is a negative word? We labor every day, our actions are labor, we set out upon labors, and most of us are labor. How Orwellian would it be to try to avoid calling a pig what it is because the word describing it makes you feel bad? Software development, regardless of how much you want to shout from the rooftops how much you like it, is labor. You trade your time for money to someone else who wants code. We are damn fortunate that wealth is attracted to code enough to provide this small segment of the working class as much luxury as it can reap from its labors.
- Wowfunhappy 8y ago
  There are many words which both (1) should not have negative connections but (2) probably aren't an ideal product name if you want your business to be successful.

asd33313131 8y ago

There's no penalty if they don't take our offer. We are likely going to remove this clause. Interestingly, virtually everyone who applies (> 98%) is fine with this.

chipperyman573 8y ago
>Interestingly, virtually everyone who applies (> 98%) is fine with this. How was this measured?
- asd33313131 8y ago
  Everyone who fills out the application answers this question. It's a little harder to do this test now (because of selection bias) but in the recent past when we were advertising the program we wouldn't tell people about the staffing bit until the application. There's probably some attrition there (i.e. people who don't like the staffing bit maybe would just not complete the application). But, interesting, people would answer "no" to other questions that would disqualify them (like right to work in US, or about the income share agreement terms) and would still complete the application. This makes us believe people were answering honestly and not just dropping off at the staffing question.

zanny 8y ago

Labor is a negative word? We labor every day, our actions are labor, we set out upon labors, and most of us are labor. How Orwellian would it be to try to avoid calling a pig what it is because the word describing it makes you feel bad? Software development, regardless of how much you want to shout from the rooftops how much you like it, is labor. You trade your time for money to someone else who wants code. We are damn fortunate that wealth is attracted to code enough to provide this small segment of the working class as much luxury as it can reap from its labors.

Wowfunhappy 8y ago
There are many words which both (1) should not have negative connections but (2) probably aren't an ideal product name if you want your business to be successful.