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Ya it's kind of weird he talks about how stuffing a beige box PC in the corner was the impetus for X86 servers. But the modern day equivalent of that is either

Ya it's kind of weird he talks about how stuffing a beige box PC in the corner was the impetus for X86 servers. But the modern day equivalent of that is either a cheap $5/month VPS, a RaspberryPi, or an OpenWRT router, any of which could compile/run ARM code. I think fundamentally, the error he's making is comparing the current market to the late 90s/early 2000s market. Back then a RISC Unix machine cost thousands of dollars. It was cost prohibitive to give one to each dev/admin. Nowadays a RISC Linux PC is $5.

syn0byte 8y ago
Actually, you make the best case for ARM servers of anyone else in this thread. The starving college kid in a Helsinki dorm working on his EE degree can't afford 600-1000 dollars for another Laptop/Desktop to experiment with. A 35 dollar ARM SBC and a monitor that doubles as his TV is right in his price range... That doesn't invalidate his point. He's just saying that is basically what needs to happen for ARM servers to start taking off. The next step is for companies to start deploying ARM workstations. That part still seems to be a good way off, MS abandoning their Windows ARM port didn't help the cause.
- einr 8y ago
  The starving college kid in a Helsinki dorm working on his EE degree can't afford 600-1000 dollars for another Laptop/Desktop to experiment with. A 35 dollar ARM SBC and a monitor that doubles as his TV is right in his price range... 35 dollars will buy you an oldish x86 beige box that will absolutely flat out murder a Raspberry Pi performance-wise. Cheap, fast hardware is not a problem anymore.
- nly 8y ago
  > MS abandoning their Windows ARM port didn't help the cause. Doesn't look like this is the case now https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2018/11/15/official-support-for-windows-10-on-arm-development/ https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2018/11/15/official-s...

syn0byte 8y ago

Actually, you make the best case for ARM servers of anyone else in this thread. The starving college kid in a Helsinki dorm working on his EE degree can't afford 600-1000 dollars for another Laptop/Desktop to experiment with. A 35 dollar ARM SBC and a monitor that doubles as his TV is right in his price range... That doesn't invalidate his point. He's just saying that is basically what needs to happen for ARM servers to start taking off. The next step is for companies to start deploying ARM workstations. That part still seems to be a good way off, MS abandoning their Windows ARM port didn't help the cause.

einr 8y ago
The starving college kid in a Helsinki dorm working on his EE degree can't afford 600-1000 dollars for another Laptop/Desktop to experiment with. A 35 dollar ARM SBC and a monitor that doubles as his TV is right in his price range... 35 dollars will buy you an oldish x86 beige box that will absolutely flat out murder a Raspberry Pi performance-wise. Cheap, fast hardware is not a problem anymore.
nly 8y ago
> MS abandoning their Windows ARM port didn't help the cause. Doesn't look like this is the case now https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2018/11/15/official-support-for-windows-10-on-arm-development/ https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2018/11/15/official-s...