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> don't force them to admit to themselves that they were wrong: if you let people 'save face' they can just get on board and agree with you. If you force them

> don't force them to admit to themselves that they were wrong: if you let people 'save face' they can just get on board and agree with you. If you force them to grapple with being wrong they will be difficult and will hate your guts I think that an inability to admit a mistake is arrogant and results in a lack of accountability and ownership over individual's work. If someone makes a mistake they should be proactively owning it and trying to find solutions to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

ltbarcly3 8y ago
I doubt you properly understand that other people are full thinking beings equal to yourself since you assume everyone secretly agrees with you about every detail of everything all the time and the only issue is whether they are going to admit it or lie.
- dang 8y ago
  Please don't cross into personal attack like this. Comments here need to be civil and substantive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- say-vagnes 8y ago
  Can you unpack exactly what made this comment go from 0 to 100? I didn't get any of that from the parent post.
- throwaway6734 8y ago
  Your claim was: > if you let people 'save face' they can just get on board and agree with you. If you force them to grapple with being wrong they will be difficult and will hate your guts Your response to my post: > I doubt you properly understand that other people are full thinking beings equal to yourself since you assume everyone secretly agrees with you about every detail of everything all the time and the only issue is whether they are going to admit it or lie. To me, you're contradicting your own position. It also seems to me that you're the one that doesn't "properly understand that other people are full thinking beings equal to yourself" based on the arrogance and condescension of your response.

ltbarcly3 8y ago

I doubt you properly understand that other people are full thinking beings equal to yourself since you assume everyone secretly agrees with you about every detail of everything all the time and the only issue is whether they are going to admit it or lie.

dang 8y ago
Please don't cross into personal attack like this. Comments here need to be civil and substantive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
say-vagnes 8y ago
Can you unpack exactly what made this comment go from 0 to 100? I didn't get any of that from the parent post.
throwaway6734 8y ago
Your claim was: > if you let people 'save face' they can just get on board and agree with you. If you force them to grapple with being wrong they will be difficult and will hate your guts Your response to my post: > I doubt you properly understand that other people are full thinking beings equal to yourself since you assume everyone secretly agrees with you about every detail of everything all the time and the only issue is whether they are going to admit it or lie. To me, you're contradicting your own position. It also seems to me that you're the one that doesn't "properly understand that other people are full thinking beings equal to yourself" based on the arrogance and condescension of your response.