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They will detect your noise. Then you will end up being one of their "noise client" datapoints, associating you with the actions and behaviors of a person who w

They will detect your noise. Then you will end up being one of their "noise client" datapoints, associating you with the actions and behaviors of a person who would pay for privacy and thus they will try to serve you ads according to your behavioural patterns as usual.

Misdicorl 8y ago
I think the goal would be to get a sufficient percentage of the entire internet to generate noise, without having to be aware of it. In a world where Firefox and Safari were the major internet browsers, this wouldn't actually be that hard since it could be built into those browsers directly and would already align pretty nicely with their respective parent company ethos
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- pixl97 8y ago
  "You cannot log onto Facebook with this web browser, please use Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge to continue" --FB
  - Misdicorl 8y ago
    Yes, that is one potential countermeasure. I wonder if it would be effective or if it would be the beginning of the end for fb.
    - pixl97 8y ago
      >In 2015, it is expected that 70.1 percent of Facebook users worldwide will access the social network through their mobile phone. What I don't know if that means browser or App. Not effective at all if most people use the app.
  - Misdicorl 8y ago
    Circling back again, the more likely warpath FB would pursue is making FB work very poorly on non-cooperative browsers and excellently on cooperative ones. Then users will blame the browser for being trash rather than FB.
waynecochran 8y ago
Is there precedence for this? Are there others that have tried this and have been classified as "noise clients" or are you just surmising ahead of time? You are probably right, but feeding them noise has been on my mind for a long time and I don't see another answer.
- nurettin 8y ago
  Surmise is a strong word. I will settle with deducing it.
- edmundsauto 8y ago
  What about not using their services, and use a privacy extension to prevent other sites from using these services on your behalf?
  - waynecochran 8y ago
    Never had FB account. Never will. I saw this on day one. Not using FB is insufficient. Privacy tools are insufficient. Gov't involvement is insufficient. Make them "eat noise." I don't know if it will work, but we're running out of options quickly. https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-tracking-you-even-if-you-dont-have-account-888699 https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-tracking-you-even-if-you-d...

Misdicorl 8y ago

I think the goal would be to get a sufficient percentage of the entire internet to generate noise, without having to be aware of it. In a world where Firefox and Safari were the major internet browsers, this wouldn't actually be that hard since it could be built into those browsers directly and would already align pretty nicely with their respective parent company ethos

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pixl97 8y ago
"You cannot log onto Facebook with this web browser, please use Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge to continue" --FB
- Misdicorl 8y ago
  Yes, that is one potential countermeasure. I wonder if it would be effective or if it would be the beginning of the end for fb.
  - pixl97 8y ago
    >In 2015, it is expected that 70.1 percent of Facebook users worldwide will access the social network through their mobile phone. What I don't know if that means browser or App. Not effective at all if most people use the app.
- Misdicorl 8y ago
  Circling back again, the more likely warpath FB would pursue is making FB work very poorly on non-cooperative browsers and excellently on cooperative ones. Then users will blame the browser for being trash rather than FB.

waynecochran 8y ago

Is there precedence for this? Are there others that have tried this and have been classified as "noise clients" or are you just surmising ahead of time? You are probably right, but feeding them noise has been on my mind for a long time and I don't see another answer.

nurettin 8y ago
Surmise is a strong word. I will settle with deducing it.
edmundsauto 8y ago
What about not using their services, and use a privacy extension to prevent other sites from using these services on your behalf?
- waynecochran 8y ago
  Never had FB account. Never will. I saw this on day one. Not using FB is insufficient. Privacy tools are insufficient. Gov't involvement is insufficient. Make them "eat noise." I don't know if it will work, but we're running out of options quickly. https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-tracking-you-even-if-you-dont-have-account-888699 https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-tracking-you-even-if-you-d...