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One of the reasons for this is that NYC is very livable with a tech salary. I’ve never been in the Bay Area, but here you can make just above $100k and live co

One of the reasons for this is that NYC is very livable with a tech salary. I’ve never been in the Bay Area, but here you can make just above $100k and live comfortably with a <60 mins commute to work. I know that because that’s what I do. You won’t be able to buy a house and having a kid without a spouse with a similar salary may be tough, but for a single person it lets you enjoy the city and actually be able to save money.

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aetherson 8y ago
You can do the same in the bay area. People who are complaining about how unaffordable the bay area is on six figure salaries are either wanting to be much closer than one hour from hot spots, owning a house, having a kid, or some combination thereof.
- forrestthewoods 8y ago
  People wanting to raise a family? How preposterous!
  - tivert 8y ago
    > People wanting to raise a family? How preposterous! I know! People should be satisfied with the opportunity to change the world (and make me rich) at my startup. Asking for more is kinda greedy. /s.
- electricslpnsld 8y ago
  I think the point is that in NYC, you don’t have to be over an hour from the hot spots if you aren’t making lots of money. It is totally possible to live in Manhattan on 30 grand a year (hell, I’ve done it). To do so in San Francisco or the Penninsula would be much harder.
  - aetherson 8y ago
    The point of the grandparent was that you could live "less than 60 minutes" from work on over 100k a year. I don't doubt that someone can live in Manhattan on less than 30k per year -- my wife worked in nonprofit when we met and I saw lots of people she worked with managing to live in salaries that were half of what people on HN regularly decry as being effective poverty for the area. However, when you do a simple search for apartments for rent in Manhattan, studios are routinely around $2k/month.
- beager 8y ago
  If not one of those three things are indepdently attainable on a six figure salary, then yes, the Bay Area is massively unaffordable.
  - aetherson 8y ago
    The bay area is certainly very high cost of living. But not massively different from New York, which is also very high cost of living.

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aetherson 8y ago

You can do the same in the bay area. People who are complaining about how unaffordable the bay area is on six figure salaries are either wanting to be much closer than one hour from hot spots, owning a house, having a kid, or some combination thereof.

forrestthewoods 8y ago
People wanting to raise a family? How preposterous!
- tivert 8y ago
  > People wanting to raise a family? How preposterous! I know! People should be satisfied with the opportunity to change the world (and make me rich) at my startup. Asking for more is kinda greedy. /s.
electricslpnsld 8y ago
I think the point is that in NYC, you don’t have to be over an hour from the hot spots if you aren’t making lots of money. It is totally possible to live in Manhattan on 30 grand a year (hell, I’ve done it). To do so in San Francisco or the Penninsula would be much harder.
- aetherson 8y ago
  The point of the grandparent was that you could live "less than 60 minutes" from work on over 100k a year. I don't doubt that someone can live in Manhattan on less than 30k per year -- my wife worked in nonprofit when we met and I saw lots of people she worked with managing to live in salaries that were half of what people on HN regularly decry as being effective poverty for the area. However, when you do a simple search for apartments for rent in Manhattan, studios are routinely around $2k/month.
beager 8y ago
If not one of those three things are indepdently attainable on a six figure salary, then yes, the Bay Area is massively unaffordable.
- aetherson 8y ago
  The bay area is certainly very high cost of living. But not massively different from New York, which is also very high cost of living.