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Of course the students blamed the professor: they've been taught by example throughout their lives that the proper reaction to fucking up is to point the finger

by joshes 16y ago

Of course the students blamed the professor: they've been taught by example throughout their lives that the proper reaction to fucking up is to point the finger at everyone else. An incredible lack of personal responsibility is a growing problem in this generation.

spinlock 16y ago
I love that the only lens we can see this story through is to take sides with the students or the professor. I expect any professor to write his own tests (or have his TA write them). I consider it cheating for a professor to contract out the work of writing a test. If students knew that they were seeing the test early, then they cheated too. I find it impossible to determine who has the high ground in this story because both the professor and the students are standing in the mud.
- flatline 16y ago
  Here's an analogy: if you visit a web page with a password field, and the password is embedded in a comment in the HTML markup, who is at fault for unauthorized people logging in? While it may be morally wrong (and illegal) to exploit the system, I have a pretty strong opinion on which party is more at fault. The students' punishment seems fitting, it's sad that there is no mention of disciplinary action against the prof who is crying foul for leaving his password barely hidden, so to speak.
locopati 16y ago
" In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young and old are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old, and is ready to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend to the young and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the young." - Plato (The Republic, VIII)
hubb 16y ago
read the article before making blanket statements about the depravity of youth these days. the students studied sample tests from a textbook, and the midterm ended up being an exact copy of one of the samples
cafard 16y ago
Gee, I haven't heard that one in 35 years or so.

by joshes 16y ago

spinlock 16y ago

I love that the only lens we can see this story through is to take sides with the students or the professor. I expect any professor to write his own tests (or have his TA write them). I consider it cheating for a professor to contract out the work of writing a test. If students knew that they were seeing the test early, then they cheated too. I find it impossible to determine who has the high ground in this story because both the professor and the students are standing in the mud.

flatline 16y ago
Here's an analogy: if you visit a web page with a password field, and the password is embedded in a comment in the HTML markup, who is at fault for unauthorized people logging in? While it may be morally wrong (and illegal) to exploit the system, I have a pretty strong opinion on which party is more at fault. The students' punishment seems fitting, it's sad that there is no mention of disciplinary action against the prof who is crying foul for leaving his password barely hidden, so to speak.

locopati 16y ago

" In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young and old are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old, and is ready to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend to the young and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the young." - Plato (The Republic, VIII)

hubb 16y ago

read the article before making blanket statements about the depravity of youth these days. the students studied sample tests from a textbook, and the midterm ended up being an exact copy of one of the samples

cafard 16y ago

Gee, I haven't heard that one in 35 years or so.