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All you have to do is try to run a conference in Chicago to see how bad unions can make things though. Sorry, you can’t plug that in, only a card-carrying elect

All you have to do is try to run a conference in Chicago to see how bad unions can make things though. Sorry, you can’t plug that in, only a card-carrying electrician is allowed to do that! And he’s on break. My point here is that unions have done plenty to make a bad name for themselves, blaming everything on the media is simplistic.

goostavos 8y ago
>only a card-carrying electrician is allowed to do that! Had I not experienced it directly (multiple times!), I would 100% think it was hyperbole. My first 'real' job was flying around and recording conferences for a little shop. Chicago and Philly were by far the worst places to work. I was literally not allowed to plug my little hand held recorder into the wall without paying for a qualified union electrician to come in and oversee me. Ignoring the over absurdity of it, on a personal level, how is it not completely embarrassing and demeaning for the electrician that gets called in? Is watching somebody plug in a cell phone charger fulfilling? I mean, I guess getting paid is getting paid, but damn, it just felt Kafkaesque every time. You take someone with talent and an actually useful trade, and then you make them watch other people plug things into wall sockets.
- C1sc0cat 8y ago
  :-) wonder what would have happened if that happened when I worked at BT "sorry comrade, that is telecommunications equipment can I see your CWA card, oh and did I mention that I am branch secretary (president) of my branch. Its more the rip off prices for lighting and network service that piss me off
dfxm12 8y ago
You're talking about being "simplistic", yet you want to reduce all unions to one bad example (which seems to protect the members of the union) from a city nicknamed in part due to its overall political corruption[0]? Plus, if you read more than one sentence of the parent post, you'll see it blames than just the media. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windy_City_(nickname)#Politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windy_City_(nickname)#Politics

goostavos 8y ago

>only a card-carrying electrician is allowed to do that! Had I not experienced it directly (multiple times!), I would 100% think it was hyperbole. My first 'real' job was flying around and recording conferences for a little shop. Chicago and Philly were by far the worst places to work. I was literally not allowed to plug my little hand held recorder into the wall without paying for a qualified union electrician to come in and oversee me. Ignoring the over absurdity of it, on a personal level, how is it not completely embarrassing and demeaning for the electrician that gets called in? Is watching somebody plug in a cell phone charger fulfilling? I mean, I guess getting paid is getting paid, but damn, it just felt Kafkaesque every time. You take someone with talent and an actually useful trade, and then you make them watch other people plug things into wall sockets.

C1sc0cat 8y ago
:-) wonder what would have happened if that happened when I worked at BT "sorry comrade, that is telecommunications equipment can I see your CWA card, oh and did I mention that I am branch secretary (president) of my branch. Its more the rip off prices for lighting and network service that piss me off

dfxm12 8y ago

You're talking about being "simplistic", yet you want to reduce all unions to one bad example (which seems to protect the members of the union) from a city nicknamed in part due to its overall political corruption[0]? Plus, if you read more than one sentence of the parent post, you'll see it blames than just the media. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windy_City_(nickname)#Politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windy_City_(nickname)#Politics